Why work? A couple from the UK asks

[007XX]

It's better than having nothing.
For a "normal" (read: spastic) person like myself, single, no kids etc, I'd earn over double on min wage than I would with the hand out. And it's not very entertaining being an unemployed person (been there)

P.S, who needs some stuff polished

My halo is seriously in need of some cleaning up if you're at a loss for something to do.... Then again, I probably can't afford your services! Lol

Unemployment sucks. Retirement is one of the scariest words invented as far as I'm concerned.

A lot of people are gonna go hungry if we have any sort of large scale power outages, not me, I can eat out of my backyard whenever I want. And I have a love trap for a deer if I need meat.

Precisely! We've got a couple of tanks collecting rain water, a few raised gardens wherever I've managed to squeeze them in, and a girlfriend of mine with some land is going to let a calf with my name on it graze til he or she is nice and fat.

Then in the chest freezer, while the next one is fattening up.

Don't tell Akzle I said so, but yeah, bugger being too much a part of this system!

[Banditbandit]

A lot of people are gonna go hungry if we have any sort of large scale power outages, not me, I can eat out of my backyard whenever I want. And I have a love trap for a deer if I need meat.

Yep .. there's so much puha coming out of our garden right now ... and a deer trap sounds great - I'm too old and broken to carry big animals too far ... so trapping sounds good ... but my boat goes out regularly and I always have fish I caught in the deep freeze - there's a net in the shed which catches flounder and mullet ... I put the net out at low tide - sit on my balcony with a coffee and watch the floats bounce around as it catches me food - walk out again at low tide and collect the food ... adn bring in the net till later

(I won't even mention the oysters and scallops on the mudflats...)

[007XX]

Yep .. there's so much puha coming out of our garden right now ... and a deer trap sounds great - I'm too old and broken to carry big animals too far ... so trapping sounds good ... but my boat goes out regularly and I always have fish I caught in the deep freeze - there's a net in the shed which catches flounder and mullet ... I put the net out at low tide - sit on my balcony with a coffee and watch the floats bounce around as it catches me food - walk out again at low tide and collect the food ... adn bring in the net till later

(I won't even mention the oysters and scallops on the mudflats...)

Oysters? Scallops?? *whimpers*


I was born in New Caledonia and am such a sucker for seafood! I must start free diving for scallops again me thinks.

[Banditbandit]

I was born in New Caledonia and am such a sucker for seafood! I must start free diving for scallops again me thinks.

Ooooo ... do you have a sexy French accent to go with that cute arse??? (I know it's not the one in your avatar pix ...)

Cute arse - Sexy accent and oysters ...

[unstuck]

I'll cook on the fire

What you gonna cook? Do you have a food source handy, just in case? Can you get acsess to clean drinking water without the need of a pump, like a glockleman pump or some such? Have you got some way of cutting your firewood for your cooking fire, without having to rely on a petrol powered saw? A lot of people in CHCH didnt now how to have a shit after the quakes. Just sayin.

[unstuck]

Yep .. there's so much puha coming out of our garden right now ... and a deer trap sounds great - I'm too old and broken to carry big animals too far ... so trapping sounds good ... but my boat goes out regularly and I always have fish I caught in the deep freeze - there's a net in the shed which catches flounder and mullet ... I put the net out at low tide - sit on my balcony with a coffee and watch the floats bounce around as it catches me food - walk out again at low tide and collect the food ... adn bring in the net till later

(I won't even mention the oysters and scallops on the mudflats...)

Damn that sounds good. That is the one thing I miss living here, being next to the sea, and so much food. At least I can get eels and trout and maybe a few kura.

[Banditbandit]

At least I can get eels and trout and maybe a few kura.

I'm heading up to the lakes to try for some trout soon ... and there are kura there ... do you use the fern fronds to catch them?

[unstuck]

do you use the fern fronds to catch them?

Sometimes just use a sack with a bit of burly, but mostly just lift a lot of rocks.

[Ocean1]

Can you get acsess to clean drinking water without the need of a pump, like a glockleman pump or some such?

Meh. Minimum moving parts: http://lurkertech.com/water/pump/tailer/

[unstuck]

Meh. Minimum moving parts: http://lurkertech.com/water/pump/tailer/

Cool link, cheers.

[Milts]

And here is a dissenting view based not on one couple, but on balanced academic research. Favourite quote: "You're not living, you're existing" [on the benefit].
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/jo...ce?INTCMP=SRCH

[mashman]

Anyhoo... Mashman: yes, there are only so many jobs out there in any given field. BUT: there is always work for who truly wants to to work and make something of themselves. If your particular field is not good for you, then try another... But don't just give up and extend a hand ad infinitum.

Admitedly one must want to humble themselves and start at the bottom of the ladder and pay their dues, maybe more than once. But so what?

Once again, I come back to a moral code of ethics that escapes it would seem a great many people. One easy principle: getting money for doing nothing in return is WRONG.

Morals and ethics. What's moral about valuing someone's effort based on how it is perceived? What's moral about someone having $5 million in the bank and earning money for no other reason than they have money in the bank (that money costing jobs and removing money from circulation etc... and in the hands of 1 person (multiplied by X richies))? What's moral about a bank that charges interest on money they pull from thin air? What's moral about being humble in word and not deed (does anyone quit their job to make room for someone who has been on the dole for a while?). Plenty of working people earn money for nothing, yet you don't complain because they are perceived to be doing something. I doubt the majority of the unemployed asked to be made redundant. People have bills to pay or they lose everything they have worked for, whilst those who have relieved them of their job don't "suffer" in the slightest.

There are so many wrongs in this world it's stunning. Even if there were no jobs left in the country, there would still be those who were unemployed. Would you be happier then? In the article of the OP, they guy said he has had offers on jobs and I understand his logic for not taking them given the economics of the situation. Take on board debt? Why? Put themselves under financial pressure? Why?

If I lose my job, my family loses everything, potentially worse. Can you tell me why we should bother to try again?

[mashman]

And here is a dissenting view based not on one couple, but on balanced academic research. Favourite quote: "You're not living, you're existing" [on the benefit].
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/jo...ce?INTCMP=SRCH

Nope. That's all lies and bullshit. Nice find.

[ducatilover]

What you gonna cook? Do you have a food source handy, just in case? Can you get acsess to clean drinking water without the need of a pump, like a glockleman pump or some such? Have you got some way of cutting your firewood for your cooking fire, without having to rely on a petrol powered saw? A lot of people in CHCH didnt now how to have a shit after the quakes. Just sayin.

Got some beef stuff walking in the paddocks.
Got a couple of big rain water tanks fir the house (don't remember capacity, enough for a one year drought with the family here)
Got saws, axes and log splitters.

I iz a cunt-tree bumpkin ya womble, we're sorted

[Banditbandit]

Meh. Minimum moving parts: http://lurkertech.com/water/pump/tailer/

I had one of these in Hawke's Bay - our whole water supply depended on it ... I'd recommend these too - simple to put together - no issues, apart from occassionally greasing the seals ..



http://www.windmills.co.nz/