Next gen gaming consoles

[imdying]

Aside from historial trivia, none of that really matters in any case, this is what matters:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVX0OUO9ptU

4K live demo, hell yeah.

[Headbanger]

well, that was silly, at the time of the PS3 release in NZ the AMD dual core Athlons cpu's were kicking arse in gaming and in value for money. They could be had for a couple hundred dollars and paired up with a motherboard for an additional $80.

You can pick any year in the life span of any console, and PC's were running the same game at a higher resolution, higher detail, and with higher fps. Then as now you paid more for the extra perforance and capabilities, But that is how it should be. The difference between a good pc and a gaming PC is simply a video card, The difference between a shit PC and a gaming PC is a complete replacement.

If after a "year" they no longer cut the mustard thats is due to the expectations of the owner and the open ended design of the platform, not due to consoles.

Funny enough, My racing sim setup is still running a 4850, Damn nice mid-range card in 2008.

[Scuba_Steve]

You mate could have used an 8800GTS (<$700) and the next CPU down (<$500) and have 95% of the result though.

The Steam stats are skewed by a large percentage of their users being stuck on the family white box; they're not gaming PCs perse.

The reality is, if you want the best graphics at the best frame rates, you're stuck on a PC. Have a look at Gran Turismo 5... it's a mostly detail-less world that allows very few cars on the track at once. GTA4 is another example... get a few explosions on the screen and it's goodbye frame rate, the number of NPC/vehicles on the screen is small, and that's at only 720p.

The best thing about consoles is you just pop the disc in and off you go (ok, except for the 200MB patch it wants to download, after another 100MB system patch, but for the most part it holds true).

Yea he quickly learnt "latest & greatest" was a effort in futile.
You're right in a way about them not being "gaming PC's" but they are a majority of "gamer's PC's" & that's the thing, most PC gamer's don't have "gaming PC" specs.

End of day console have the price point & ease of use advantage, while PC's can have the GFX advantage & that's always going to be the case

[imdying]

You're right in a way about them not being "gaming PC's" but they are a majority of "gamer's PC's" & that's the thing, most PC gamer's don't have "gaming PC" specs.

That would be the majority of Steam users, which is distinct from gamers. Many gamers do not use and have no interest in Steam. I've been a pc gamer for 25 years and I've only used it in the last 3 months. I can see why they avoid it though... what a steaming pile of poo. My first experience with it was pretty good, but pretty soon I found I would have been better off purchasing the real deal or ripping it off. Their stats show that the majority of their users pcs have discrete graphics though, surprisingly, even the laptops.

[bogan]

That would be the majority of Steam users, which is distinct from gamers. Many gamers do not use and have no interest in Steam. I've been a pc gamer for 25 years and I've only used it in the last 3 months. I can see why they avoid it though... what a steaming pile of poo. My first experience with it was pretty good, but pretty soon I found I would have been better off purchasing the real deal or ripping it off. Their stats show that the majority of their users pcs have discrete graphics though, surprisingly, even the laptops.

Seems like its the way PC gaming is going though, only got steam about 3 months ago too, and will probably get EA's version for this month... Not seeing any problem with it personally.

[imdying]

I'm a bit reluctant to buy games that don't actually work. Even less so when a ripped copy works just fine. The system itself seems to tick along ok though.

[bogan]

I'm a bit reluctant to buy games that don't actually work. Even less so when a ripped copy works just fine. The system itself seems to tick along ok though.

Yours don't work? I can see why that would be annoying, is it common for them not to work?

[Usarka]

The best thing about consoles is you just pop the disc in and off you go (ok, except for the 200MB patch it wants to download, after another 100MB system patch, but for the most part it holds true).

The best thing about consoles is being able to sit on the couch with the big tv and home theater setup.

[Akzle]

The best thing about consoles is being able to sit on the couch with the big tv and home theater setup.

there's this shit called wireless, the blacks invented it in rotorua about the 1700s. look it up.

((also, i'd expect any new gfx card to handle HDMI or the DVI thing, and your fancy teev, too. and if you don't have an awesome stereo/sound card, you're a poofter.))

[Headbanger]

Steam is better then it was a few years ago, Still a pain in the ring hole to have to run another layer of software just to run the game. The entire set it to run offline before attempting to run games offline is just fkn retarded.

The other issue is when the games don't work, You not only have that extra layer of software to cloud the issue but 2 companies involved.

[imdying]

Yours don't work? I can see why that would be annoying, is it common for them not to work?

After the first failure (second game mind, first one was fine), I'm not prepared to spend any more money... cost enough in download cap.

The best thing about consoles is being able to sit on the couch with the big tv and home theater setup.

But you can do that fine with a PC. Arguably much better too... you actually get 1080p from a PC in any game. PCs all have HDMI these days, so you just plug in a single cable and off it goes.

[imdying]

Steam is better then it was a few years ago, Still a pain in the ring hole to have to run another layer of software just to run the game. The entire set it to run offline before attempting to run games offline is just fkn retarded.

The other issue is when the games don't work, You not only have that extra layer of software to cloud the issue but 2 companies involved.

Try FarCry3... you get two layers of shite to wade through (Steam and uPlay).

[Headbanger]

The best thing about consoles is being able to sit on the couch with the big tv and home theater setup.

I've got my main PC not only running into a 32" lcd as a main monitor but running a HDMI cable into my amp, which then feeds the video into a 55" LCD in the lounge.Pretty sweet deal, especially with a wireless kb/mouse, and the ability for someone to be watching a blu-ray on the main TV while I play games on the monitor, all running from the single source.

Secondary PC is running a projector with a wall sized display, an amp, a big fuck off set of speakers, and a recliner for me to kick back in style.

Of course, I also have an Xbox shrine in the lounge, Its how I keep my kids off the PC's....

[Headbanger]

Try FarCry3... you get two layers of shite to wade through (Steam and uPlay).

I fired up a game the other day through steam, it then fired up windows live. Think it might have been Dirt 3.

Also I puchased Test Drive 2 through steam, 20Gb, fucker didn 't run, Blew my cap, twice, Funny enough my trial version runs sweet.

And shit like BF3 refusing to run single player untill it had downloading and installed 15GB's of shite and running/logging into origin.....fuck me dead.

[imdying]

I've got my main PC not only running into a 32" lcd as a main monitor but running a HDMI cable into my amp, which then feeds the video into a 55" LCD in the lounge.Pretty sweet deal, especially with a wireless kb/mouse, and the ability for someone to be watching a blu-ray on the main TV while I play games on the monitor, all running from the single source.

Secondary PC is running a projector with a wall sized display, an amp, a big fuck off set of speakers, and a recliner for me to kick back in style.

Of course, I also have an Xbox shrine in the lounge, Its how I keep my kids off the PC's....

Likewise, except I have it all running through a multizone AV receiver. Big screen, 1080p projector, PC, PS3, plus a number of other devices, all just a few clicks away (even the screen rolls down the wall by itself!). In Windows you just right click a song or movie and it plays to the currently selected screen, w00t!