Haldanes is closed

[boman]

I think the answer is simple in this case, everyman and his dog is making and selling pipes around the world. Its oversubscribed and always a dutch auction. Pipes are something that I would never entertain importing to resell, no margin worth getting out of bed for. There isnt really an Akrapovic distributor in NZ, just one that piggybacks onto the Aussie distributor, hence more cost. Look at Leo Vince, it came and went here, its a headache. Production schedules are decided months in advance and the more you buy the better the price. Relatively speaking there are no people in NZ! OH, AND YOU ALWAYS END UP WITH STOCK AND PARTS THAT YOU WILL DIE WITH, THAT DOESNT MAKE ECONOMIC SENSE

The point also, is that not many Bike shops, practice Customer services any more. Service almost seems to be a swear word. So why continue to support bad service? Would your business survive with bad service? if you ignored customers requests, no matter how ludicris, in your eyes they are?

At least a sod off, not interested, is communication. More than some businesses supply.

And where does that leave me? I have money to spend, but nothing to spend it on. Chances are that if I buy the System thats on Tard me, then I am supporting a foreign economy anyway?

I may as well buy it off TJ, and support a site sponsor, off another Forum...And another country

[Robert Taylor]

The point also, is that not many Bike shops, practice Customer services any more. Service almost seems to be a swear word. So why continue to support bad service? Would your business survive with bad service? if you ignored customers requests, no matter how ludicris, in your eyes they are?

At least a sod off, not interested, is communication. More than some businesses supply.

And where does that leave me? I have money to spend, but nothing to spend it on. Chances are that if I buy the System thats on Tard me, then I am supporting a foreign economy anyway?

I may as well buy it off TJ, and support a site sponsor, off another Forum...And another country

Granted, in this case you have no option but to buy offshore

[Madness]

And where does that leave me? I have money to spend, but nothing to spend it on. Chances are that if I buy the System thats on Tard me, then I am supporting a foreign economy anyway?

I may as well buy it off TJ, and support a site sponsor, off another Forum...And another country

Whilst the situation is obviously frustrating, your loyalty is to be applauded IMO.

[BoristheBiter]

Have not most young kiwi's headed over sea's in the past.
We are too small of an economy to affect or influence global economic trends. But we can adapt and make some coin off it moving forward.
We have had the Stone Age, the ice age, medieval times.
The commonwealth, Soviet and US superpowers controlling the world in a major way. Now we move into a time of more change. One of those big shifts is the Technology age. The Internet is a massive part of that when it comes to communication and Retail.
Embrace it, or become extinct.

The thing most have missed is we have evolved as a country. we have stopped trying to be the cheapest and are trying to be the best. just take our wine and dairy products as an example. top prices are paid for our goods. this has been the downfall of our manufacturing market as imports are mass produced overseas so are made cheaper and to most cheaper is good, just look at the profit of the warehouse.

Another reason to shop for bike parts/accessories online is the convenience and the information you can get. I quite enjoy surfing for cool bits where I can look at pictures and read reviews etc. I very rarely compare prices.

Its a different shopping experience entirely than going into a bike shop taking up the salespersons time while they look through catalogues and there are other customers waiting to buy stuff when you are just browsing and maybe had no intention buying anything anyway.

Shame the shops are closing, but the market decides who stays and who goes in the long run.

And because of this shops don't carry stock so have to buy one off parts, at a higher price, so you go elsewhere and the shop closes down and when you come back for something else you wonder why they have gone bust.
Yes I love surfing the net to see what I can buy, yes I check the prices, but I always buy from a NZ retailer (except my helmet that they don't stock here).
Why? because I like to go in look around a shop find what I want with the knowlege that is something id wrong I can just take it back and get another one without having to send it back overseas.

not from all the people I hear from - mates, relatives, etc - and no, they aren't lazy whining cunts, either - most of them, like me, have a high work ethic - it's just the jobs /work are not there. - mainly construction/civil/engineering and assorted offshoots, related - tradesmen mainly

I would like to know what part of NZ you are talking about as I work/sell to the engineering/civil/construction areas and if those company's aren't doing well then we aren't and like I've said we are back to where we were. Yes we have changed our business model but not by a lot.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Triumph Daytona 675 Slip-on Exhaust by Arrow (A9600199)
Trademe ---- $1189NZ

http://www.motovationusa.com/mvstore...idproduct=1239
$749.99 USD ---> $845.25NZD

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A saving of 1189 - 845.25 = 343.75NZD ....... or ............ a 40% increase off trademe

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That should give you an "eye deer" of how much it will cost if you use those percentages. It looks like an entrepreneur has gone into business for himself. I wonder why the shops are losing business. Even if that trademe guy was charged GST, with that kind of savings he can still undercut small business. Christ, he is buying at full retail price and can ship it and still make a profit.

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$845.00 + approx $100 worth of freight = $ 945.00. And 15% gst and pay for a customs broker and guess what? $1116.00 or there abouts.

Now add in the hassle if the system turns up damaged...congratulations!

Why don't you set yourself up in business importing motorcycle exhaust systems? You'd make a killing.

[nzspokes]

Why don't you set yourself up in business importing motorcycle exhaust systems? You'd make a killing.

Be better with spark plugs, bigger market and less likely to be damaged.

[Madness]

$845.00 + approx $100 worth of freight = $ 945.00. And 15% gst and pay for a customs broker and guess what? $1116.00 or there abouts.

Now add in the hassle if the system turns up damaged...congratulations!

Why don't you set yourself up in business importing motorcycle exhaust systems? You'd make a killing.

I've found the opinions of immigrants from larger countries on this subject matter quite interesting. They seem to think we as a nation are all thick and it's such an easy task to cure all the disparities resulting from living in a remote, tiny country at the bottom of the planet. In my opinion they have the least clues of all on the subject and should be at the front of the queue when it comes to the "don't like it, fuck off" scenario.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Be better with spark plugs, bigger market and less likely to be damaged.

On the contrary. Porcelain is quite fragile.

[nzspokes]

On the contrary. Porcelain is quite fragile.

Fair call, boat may hit a reef.

[Madness]

Fair call, boat may hit a reef.

Stick to bicycles and nano-physics, much safer.

[boman]

Whilst the situation is obviously frustrating, your loyalty is to be applauded IMO.

Thank you. I would rather keep my money in NZ. But it is proving harder and harder to do.

I actually nearly bought my Sv1000 off Haldanes. After twice, at two different times, having to approach the old guy who does the sales. And being treated like a leper both times,
I bought it off Scott at Mr Motorcycles. No hassle there. Couldnt be more helpful.

And again when my partner was looking for a new Ducati. Poor service. Same guy, same place. She ended up with a Suzuki, from Scott also.

And then when I was looking at upgrading my Sv. No customer service at all.

Whilst I feel bad for Chris Haldane. Bad staff I am sure, helped with its demise.

[scracha]

I didn't deny the low wage bit. What I do deny...is that NZ feels like a third world shithole (I know he didn't use that term). NZ is an incredible place to live. You don't have to earn millions to have a nice lifestyle. You can snowboard one day, swim in the sea the next. We have uncrowded roads to enjoy, a climate that's pretty bloody good and food/wine/beer second to none. Most of the world has been doing it tough in case you haven't noticed, and we're no different.

Scenery, swimming, snow, beer and wine (if you're lucky enough to be able to afford them) ain't gonna pay your nor my pension when a huge chunk of NZ's best assets (it's young people) have fucked off.

I know the answer. If you find living here so bad...fuck off.

Record time for the typical redneck Kiwi response. Listen Crasher...I work like a bastard, I pay my taxes here and therefore I'm entitled to my opinion. I personally don't find living here so bad, I never said it was 3rd world (I say approaching 2nd world if it doesn't get its shit in order) and yes....many countries are worse off but to deny that NZ has problems and imply that it's some sort of utopia is disingenuous.

I'm lucky enough to have the option of fucking off. Most Kiwi's don't. However, I love NZ (warts and all) so I'd prefer folks discussed and hopefully found solutions to its problems as opposed to burying their head in the sand and denying them.

NZ should be making shit and investing in its own people instead of selling off its land and primary assets to pay for shit from Asia.

chur
Scracha

ps. I'm sorry but your beer is shite.

IM here for the money

But I go back to nz to ride and enjoy its beauty,catch up with friends and enjoy the lifestyle

So basically you're saying - "NZ is a beautiful place but I have to fuck off abroad to earn a shitload of money to actually enjoy the lifestye NZ offers"

NZ has actually bucked the global business confidence trend and is ahead of the UK, USA, China and Aussie. Not bad at all.

Money issues aside, we have a lower crime rate, better environment, better education etc. than a lot of so called developed countries.

You don't seriously believe that shit our state sponsored media spouts. Better environment and lower crime rate....don't make me laugh.

[Tink]

Thank you. I would rather keep my money in NZ. But it is proving harder and harder to do.

I actually nearly bought my Sv1000 off Haldanes. After twice, at two different times, having to approach the old guy who does the sales. And being treated like a leper both times,
I bought it off Scott at Mr Motorcycles. No hassle there. Couldnt be more helpful.

And again when my partner was looking for a new Ducati. Poor service. Same guy, same place. She ended up with a Suzuki, from Scott also.

And then when I was looking at upgrading my Sv. No customer service at all.

Whilst I feel bad for Chris Haldane. Bad staff I am sure, helped with its demise.

OH FFS we went there twice, and never went back!

[Madness]

Scenery, swimming, snow, beer and wine (if you're lucky enough to be able to afford them) ain't gonna pay your nor my pension when a huge chunk of NZ's best assets (it's young people) have fucked off.

No matter, for every bright young Kiwi that leaves we replace them with two Indians and a Yarpie.

I'm sorry but your beer is shite.

Who cares, our weed is world-class.

[scracha]

Who cares, our weed is world-class.

My weed you mean