Haldanes is closed

[Madness]

Coca Cola is cheaper than petrol, milk & bottled water.

[wasiler]

You are being ridiculous, if you think all retailers / distributors are tarred with the same brush you are very much mistaken. Thats what bugs me about the idiot element on this forum, its an ''us and them'' mentality. Many of us in the industry are meeting the new realities, if not on outright price but on added value and after sales service. Let me tell you that its no walk in the park.

No, I am trying to make a point. Just some people are too thick to see it. The prices are too high. Do you think prices are going to go up because of the cheap labor in Asia? Because of the high prices, people are not buying local. This will not change as long as the same goods can be bought for less. Cash is going overseas and hurting the NZ economy. Even if the cash stayed inhouse at these higher prices, you would have a stagnant economy because less people would buy and little currency exchanged among kiwis. The sooner the prices drop, the sooner the currency will start to be exchanged and industry will start moving again. Now, you just can't drop prices because you have over head and costs to cover. That will come naturally and you will have little control over it. What gets me are those individuals that keep saying to buy local because they are helping the economy. You are not. You are trying to artificially inflate the price where the demand is not there...... Lassezi fare economics.... If you keep trying to delay the inevitable, you are just pissing in the wind and prolonging any type of recovery. The prices will drop no matter what you do. There are too many countries that are producing high tech stuff for peanuts. Look at any electronic device and see where it was made. As someone stated earlier, they probably were paid with a bowl of rice. I know you guys are trying to stay a float. If you sell a product that I consider is a reasonable price and good quality, I would purchase it. Otherwise, I have the option to take my business elsewhere. I would not want to be in your shoes because this is the contraction phase of the small shops and yes, some shops will close.

[Madness]

[pete-blen]

one of the probs is young guys & good afordable cars....
When I started rideing in the mid 70s.. prob 50% of the young guys
bought motor bikes...as the cars were to exspensive and/or slow
unreliable crap.. but now for 5 grand they can pick up a good first car
& take there mates / GF around... I know heaps of under 25yo that have
never riden a motor bike & most lightly never will.. ( real motorbike.. don't count)
Those cheap Jap used import cars of the mid 80 is what started the demise
of the bike shops... later on the internet compounded it...

cure..get the young guys back onto bikes.... ain't that going to be easy?

PS..why would yer need a motorbike when yer can ride one on yer playstation or X box....

[sugilite:Me]

On the contrary. Porcelain is quite fragile.

Yeah, Porcelain usually gets a shit of a time.

[Zedder]

[QUOTE=scracha;1130491991]http://www.civitas.org.uk/crime/crim...ecdjan2012.pdf
Swings, roundabouts and it is "recorded crime" so it might all be bollox.

Still wouldn't want to live in Mexico though.

Interesting figures because NZ has been number 2 on the Global Peace Index for the last two years: http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datab...ace-index-2012

There are 23 indicators ranging from safety and security in society to the extent of domestic and international conflict.

The guardian provided the most concise info by the way.

[Crasherfromwayback]

one of the probs is young guys & good afordable cars....
When I started rideing in the mid 70s.. prob 50% of the young guys
bought motor bikes...as the cars were to exspensive and/or slow
unreliable crap.. but now for 5 grand they can pick up a good first car
& take there mates / GF around... I know heaps of under 25yo that have
never riden a motor bike & most lightly never will.. ( real motorbike.. don't count)
Those cheap Jap used import cars of the mid 80 is what started the demise
of the bike shops... :

Quite right.

[bluebird]

one of the probs is young guys & good afordable cars....
When I started rideing in the mid 70s.. prob 50% of the young guys
bought motor bikes...as the cars were to exspensive and/or slow
unreliable crap.. but now for 5 grand they can pick up a good first car
& take there mates / GF around... I know heaps of under 25yo that have
never riden a motor bike & most lightly never will.. ( real motorbike.. don't count)
Those cheap Jap used import cars of the mid 80 is what started the demise
of the bike shops... later on the internet compounded it...

cure..get the young guys back onto bikes.... ain't that going to be easy?

PS..why would yer need a motorbike when yer can ride one on yer playstation or X box....

Scooter sales were up 30% last year, bike sales down 15%, all my sons 17-18 year old mates ride around on $1500 scooters, or in $3500 cars, for the price of a crappy bike you get a very tidy car. That is right about motorcycles now being a luxury sporting product, like jetskis. Sad that Haldanes has gone but my experience with them was not the best, like all extinction events, only the fittest survive. I do buy my extras and parts from my local dealer (Colmans) because I value having a local shop, but I like to service my own bike because I enjoy it.

[Brian d marge]

Australians little rapers , followed closely by NZ ,,,,,,,Demark , closely followed by NZ for burglery ( tea leafs )

but if you come here to Japan , you will get a damn good thrashing eh wot!!!

Stephen

[gammaguy]

Clearly you're an arrogant arsehole with a crap approach to discussion and I hope you don't treat your customers like you appear as here.

I certainly wouldn't buy off you.

i will REALLY miss you,as you seem so nice

in my experience people start insulting others when they run out of anything intelligent to say,

some run out earlier than others

[Gremlin]

Keep the personal insults out of the thread, and try to keep it on some semblance of the topic.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Keep the personal insults out of the thread, .

Don't ruin it. Where's the fun in that!?

[munster]

and try to keep it on some semblance of the topic.

Is this still KiwiBiker? I can't recall many threads that have stayed on original topic for long.

Sorry to hear about Haldanes, I bought a bit of stuff off them when they were still a Suzuki dealer. Been in a few times to browse the Victory's.

When's the closing down sale?

[pritch]

We sure as hell do. And I work in the motorcycle industry to boot!

After reading all the comments on KB I was thinking you were some kind of barista.

[SS90]

That's bullshit. It is what you make it. NZ is a fucking awesome place to live.

True that.

I do cringe when I read people whinging about prices and industry in NZ, and I suspect most of then have never lived any reasonable tine anywhere else.

NZ is lucky to have (road) bike shops at all, it's less than 1% of the world market, and I assure you, Kiwis are more trouble than they are worth (financially speaking) when it comes to the world market.

That may sound harsh to some, but it is the reality.

More to come this year guys, you can quote me on that.