Haldanes is closed

[HenryDorsetCase]

It's not at all difficult to afford such things. And I think you'll find a lot of the youngins that did fuck off...are coming home now. But young people doing OE's is hardly a new or NZ only thing. And pension? Fucking bludger. Safe for it yourself.

Why do you call me a redneck? Have you ever seen me make any sort of racist comment? If I have...I'll suck your cock. If not...you know the drill.

Now...we should be making shit? Oh we could...but seeing as you and other experts go on about our low wages...how could we 'make shit' paying what we do...and compete with 'shit' that's made in countries where they pay the workers a bowl of rice and $2.00 a week?

Beer? Hello...it's supposed to be cold. Also...a shitload of NZ beers have won awards in some of the worlds best comps.

talking about manufacturing, I know someone who works in an engineering firm that you've never heard of: why? because they make things and export them into a very lucrative niche. Doing quite nicely thankyouverymuch.

a lot people (not you Pete) need to take a damn chill pill.

[Zedder]

yeah sorry there chief, bllody 5 days no smokes either lol. They going to send it to colemans

All good then.

[cooky1975]

All good then.

yep all good feel sorry for the other guys though with their bikes in there

[Madness]

Personally I am sick of whining, bitching and fucking negativity all the time.

Stay the fuck off KB then

While there are people riding motorbikes, there will be an industry there to sell and service them, and the bits that go with them.

Yes, probably a sum total of 1 or 2 bike shops in each main centre and maybe more in the provinces where quads & farm bikes will keep those smaller shops afloat. There will always be a plethora of options available on the internet which won't be much good for things like tyres. This spells out reduced choice, options & competition in the local market. Time to pull your head out of the sand perhaps?

[boman]

get cycle works to make you one..

Too late. Spent my $1295.00 off shore this morning.

[Robert Taylor]

a customer is never wrong to take a better deal. Its not our business to keep businesses afloat, it is the owners of said businesses whose job is to do that. Personally I am sick of whining, bitching and fucking negativity all the time.

While there are people riding motorbikes, there will be an industry there to sell and service them, and the bits that go with them.

My personal view is that the reason a ducati dealership fails (not sure if they had other brands) is because the products are way too common, and very expensive. The only people who can afford them are wealthy, and the wealthy want (for whatever reason) to buy Harleys. Thats a pretty broad brush, I'll acknowldege, but I am convinced of the principle.

Yes but its a legitimate complaint when clearly its a major inequity that so many imports are not accorded clearance charges and gst. And in part , local businesses are expected to compete when they pay all those charges, which have to be passed on.

BTW WE ARE DOING OKAY, BUT ITS THROUGH HARD WORK AND NOT EXPECTING THE WORLD TO OWE US A LIVING

[scracha]

There are 2 things that could make bikes come back big time. 1 is if petrol got dear enough

Many cars are far more fuel efficient than a lot of motorcycles. Factor in tyres too.


[QUOTE=Zedder;1130492035]

Interesting figures because NZ has been number 2 on the Global Peace Index for the last two years: http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datab...ace-index-2012

There are 23 indicators ranging from safety and security in society to the extent of domestic and international conflict.

The guardian provided the most concise info by the way.

Global peace index isn't solely crime though. Factors like displaced people, military expenditure, military conflict etc are in there? I also see clear errors....there's no way the UK has twice the access to weapons that NZ has. Hell...outside of a clay pigeon range and the airports, I'd never seen a firearm in the UK.

Keep the personal insults out of the thread, and try to keep it on some semblance of the topic.

Ja Vol Mein Herr.

I do cringe when I read people whinging about prices and industry in NZ, and I suspect most of then have never lived any reasonable tine anywhere else.

I cringe when I hear people whinging about how wonderful NZ is, and I suspect most of them have never lived any reasonable time anywhere else.

Yes but its a legitimate complaint when clearly its a major inequity that so many imports are not accorded clearance charges and gst. And in part , local businesses are expected to compete when they pay all those charges, which have to be passed on.

Yeah it's totally stupid and unfair. It's like the government are inviting people to spend their money abroad. Bonkers.

[Robert Taylor]

No, I am trying to make a point. Just some people are too thick to see it. The prices are too high. Do you think prices are going to go up because of the cheap labor in Asia? Because of the high prices, people are not buying local. This will not change as long as the same goods can be bought for less. Cash is going overseas and hurting the NZ economy. Even if the cash stayed inhouse at these higher prices, you would have a stagnant economy because less people would buy and little currency exchanged among kiwis. The sooner the prices drop, the sooner the currency will start to be exchanged and industry will start moving again. Now, you just can't drop prices because you have over head and costs to cover. That will come naturally and you will have little control over it. What gets me are those individuals that keep saying to buy local because they are helping the economy. You are not. You are trying to artificially inflate the price where the demand is not there...... Lassezi fare economics.... If you keep trying to delay the inevitable, you are just pissing in the wind and prolonging any type of recovery. The prices will drop no matter what you do. There are too many countries that are producing high tech stuff for peanuts. Look at any electronic device and see where it was made. As someone stated earlier, they probably were paid with a bowl of rice. I know you guys are trying to stay a float. If you sell a product that I consider is a reasonable price and good quality, I would purchase it. Otherwise, I have the option to take my business elsewhere. I would not want to be in your shoes because this is the contraction phase of the small shops and yes, some shops will close.

Many fair points no argument. Much we havent got control of but the Government if it had any balls would tax business imports and private imports EQUALLY.
In actual fact we ( KSS ) are doing ok. To a large degree we are insulated because of the nature of our business, modifying suspension from revalves to rekitting to complete replacement. That requires and /or is in no small part assisted by a lot of experience, but also training. In our case much of it onsite at the Ohlins factory near Stockholm. It also requires a sizable investment in equipment and for our part we have invested heavily in suspension diagnostic equipment, where our competitors havent. But this is only indefinitely sustainable not only from what we charge out in parts and services but also healthy and ongoing sales of built up units.
I guess what I am trying to say is that a further long term ( or even short term ) roll on affect of current trading conditions is it can and will negatively impact on the ability and willingness of service providers to invest and keep reinvesting in the technology to perform those services to the best possible level. Theres always a lot of bemoaning on this forum about how far you have to travel to get good service, that situation is not going to get better, it will get worse. It all self perpetuates.

[Zedder]

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Global peace index isn't solely crime though. Factors like displaced people, military expenditure, military conflict etc are in there? I also see clear errors....there's no way the UK has twice the access to weapons that NZ has. Hell...outside of a clay pigeon range and the airports, I'd never seen a firearm in the UK.

Lol, just 'cos you've never seen a firearm in the UK apart from the clay pigeon range and the airport doesn't mean they don't exist.

Here's some civilian gun figures but feel free to click on the other headings: http://www.gunpolicy.org/firearms/region/united-kingdom

[BoristheBiter]

I cringe when I hear people whinging about how wonderful NZ is, and I suspect most of them have never lived any reasonable time anywhere else.

I think you will find that they are not whinging about how good NZ is just stating what they see as a fact.

I cringe when I here people that have lived overseas think they know what makes a country great. yes I have lived abroad for a few years, in different country's and even though there are some amazing places I wouldn't live anywhere else (at this point in time).

I don't know if you are an import (you sound like one) or not so i will phrase this question as this.

Why are you here in nz and what stops you from living somewhere else?

[Indiana_Jones]

It's not going to get any better when twats keep buying stuff on the net from overseas for small personal financial gains.

I needed new CV joints for my 'crab, $330 to get them rebuilt....each, $165 each (if I recall correctly) from the local NZ club.........or £25 each from the landcrab club. that wasn't a small personal financial gain.

If something is up to around $50 more locally, I'll go local, if not, I'll look elsewhere. Also depends how quickly I need it.

-Indy

[Zedder]

I think you will find that they are not whinging about how good NZ is just stating what they see as a fact.

I cringe when I here people that have lived overseas think they know what makes a country great. yes I have lived abroad for a few years, in different country's and even though there are some amazing places I wouldn't live anywhere else (at this point in time).

I don't know if you are an import (you sound like one) or not so i will phrase this question as this.

Why are you here in nz and what stops you from living somewhere else?

Hoi BTB, I didn't even post that comment, it was the other guy.

[BoristheBiter]

Hoi BTB, I didn't even post that comment, it was the other guy.

Sorry bout that, erased the wrong quote line. now it is correct.

[Madness]

I needed new CV joints for my 'crab, $330 to get them rebuilt....each, $165 each (if I recall correctly) from the local NZ club.........or £25 each from the landcrab club. that wasn't a small personal financial gain.

If something is up to around $50 more locally, I'll go local, if not, I'll look elsewhere. Also depends how quickly I need it.

-Indy

Two things come to mind from your post;

- A small personal financial gain is going to be determined by the person, innit. As I've posted before, I've read posts on here of Twats privately importing stuff only to later find that they could have bought it locally for either the same price or cheaper.

- You're a sick bastard for spending anything on a land crab except maybe a tip fee.

[TheDoctor]

Some more info for you...

My Friend spoke to the building manager - the store is all locked up (haldanes have been locked out due to non-payment of rent) - on friday Haldanes companys solicitor told all the staff there was no more money and there jobs were terminated (with no pay or back pay) GE finance has repossessed all it's stock (the under finance floor stock) and the Victories etc are gone. That's when the building managers got wind of it and changed the locks. Now Ian Beckhaus from Triumph NZ is in discussions with the solicitor to get back all the Ducatis and SYM's and Vespas or put in a manager to take over operations under another name. He said there was a "couple" of customers bikes in the workshop - so you should notify (via Ducati club etc) anyone who's left bike's there to get onto the haldanes company solicitor to regain possession of their bikes - Chris Haldane is not answering his mobile and had disconnected voice mail - so via the solicitor is the only path (i'll get you their number when I get it?)