Haldanes is closed

[Madness]

That's a stupid comment.

That's an ignorant response. Yes, there are many reasons why motorcycle shops are dropping like flies and I didn't suggest the trend to privately import stuff over the internet was the dominant factor, let alone the only one. The point is that people are too quick to buy stuff over the net without realising the net effect of that singular transaction on our economy. It's not just bike shops, it's fucking everything. We are importing fully fabricated steel beams for buildings from China, FFS.

Dumb fucks in this country need to realise that the small gain of say $50 to $100 they could make on privately importing shit is potentially going to cost them tenfold in taxes to pay the unemployment benefits of all the retail staff they themselves are doing out of a job.

The world is changing and if we blindly go along with it and all its temptations rather than thinking about our own circumstances here at the bottom of the planet then we're all royally fucked.

[skippa1]

They've also just received new shipment of Diavel on Wednesday. (According to the facebook page)
There is even a post on their facebook page as late as 3PM today.

It sounded weird almost like a stakeholder left with the money with very little or no notice.

I wonder if their Victory Motorcycle arm is still going or not.

Nah. I got the same email an it said that Victory will be appointing a new agent. Sucks.

[Katman]

George at Motorcycle doctors said he'd do it for 90$. And he comes to you.

With all due respect, George does the Warehouse's warranty work.

[Digitdion]

That's an ignorant response. Yes, there are many reasons why motorcycle shops are dropping like flies and I didn't suggest the trend to privately import stuff over the internet was the dominant factor, let alone the only one. The point is that people are too quick to buy stuff over the net without realising the net effect of that singular transaction on our economy. It's not just bike shops, it's fucking everything. We are importing fully fabricated steel beams for buildings from China, FFS.

Dumb fucks in this country need to realise that the small gain of say $50 to $100 they could make on privately importing shit is potentially going to cost them tenfold in taxes to pay the unemployment benefits of all the retail staff they themselves are doing out of a job.

The world is changing and if we blindly go along with it and all its temptations rather than thinking about our own circumstances here at the bottom of the planet then we're all royally fucked.

Good luck to you matey! I hope you practice what you preach. Personally after paying tax after tax in NZ, for me saving a hundy or two here and there is well worth it. Retail is about providing a product that people want to buy. To many bike shops I see around have very average product because they can not afford to stock it. Our problem is we are such a small market. Weather you like it or not the Internet is not going away. All retailers have to work out how to make it work.

Just because I own a bike, it does not mean I have to pay over the top prices for average service or product. It's time to stop blaming the Internet for bike shops going bust.

[Madness]

It's time to stop blaming the Internet for bike shops going bust.

It's not the internet, it's how we're using it. I've seen posts on here of people buying shit online only to find on recieving it that the exact item was available locally for the same price.

Again, it's not just bike shops but that just once again highlights the inability of some people to see the bigger picture.

To many bike shops I see around have very average product because they can not afford to stock it.

And you don't think that could be a sign of reduced cashflow, the beginning of the end. It won't just be the end for the bike shop but also an end to having choices and active competition in the marketplace.

Got kids? If so, good luck to them matey!

[tri boy]

With all due respect, George does the Warehouse's warranty work.

You still pissy about that
They picked him because he had better credentials than you.
get over it.

[Madness]

They picked him because he had better credentials than you.

Katman doesn't swallow?

[Digitdion]

It's not the internet, it's how we're using it. I've seen posts on here of people buying shit online only to find on recieving it that the exact item was available locally for the same price.

Again, it's not just bike shops but that just once again highlights the inability of some people to see the bigger picture.



And you don't think that could be a sign of reduced cashflow, the beginning of the end. It won't just be the end for the bike shop but also an end to having choices and active competition in the marketplace.

Got kids? If so, good luck to them matey!

None of your business if I have kids. Come on, get real.
Do you do your own bike maintanence? If you do you are a hypocrite. You should be taking your bike down to your local dealer instead of saving a few buck!

Can you enlighten me what the bloody big picture is?


In regards to having choices and active competition. As long as there is demand there will always be a market place. It's simple economics.

[Madness]

None of your business if I have kids. Come on, get real.
Do you do your own bike maintanence? If you do you are a hypocrite. You should be taking your bike down to your local dealer instead of saving a few buck!

Can you enlighten me what the bloody big picture is?


In regards to having choices and active competition. As long as there is demand there will always be a market place. It's simple economics.

None of your business if I do my own maintenance. Come on, get real

The only thing that's simple here is people like you & your narrow-minded "all about me" mentality. There will always be demand, but will there won't always be retailers in this country offering us the convenience & choice we're all accustomed to. Do you think the bigger markets like the U.S are facing these same issues? I think not.

Time to stop denying it just so you feel better about having saved $100 on a pair of thermal underwear or summat at the expense of a New Zealanders job.

Matey.

[Road kill]

It's not the internet, it's how we're using it. I've seen posts on here of people buying shit online only to find on recieving it that the exact item was available locally for the same price.

Again, it's not just bike shops but that just once again highlights the inability of some people to see the bigger picture.



And you don't think that could be a sign of reduced cashflow, the beginning of the end. It won't just be the end for the bike shop but also an end to having choices and active competition in the marketplace.

Got kids? If so, good luck to them matey!

[Madness]

You disagree? What say you, Mr Truck Driver?

[BMWST?]

None of your business if I have kids. Come on, get real.
Do you do your own bike maintanence? If you do you are a hypocrite. You should be taking your bike down to your local dealer instead of saving a few buck!

Can you enlighten me what the bloody big picture is?


In regards to having choices and active competition. As long as there is demand there will always be a market place. It's simple economics.

we dont make a blip in any market.We could be gone from the face of the planet tomorrow and it wouldnt matter to the market.The only market that matters to us should be our own,cos at the end of the day thats the only market that cares about us.I hope you have a job that is based on shit that really matters cos in the not to distant future thats the only kind of job in NZ that will be left

[Brian d marge]

we dont make a blip in any market.We could be gone from the face of the planet tomorrow and it wouldnt matter to the market.The only market that matters to us should be our own,cos at the end of the day thats the only market that cares about us.I hope you have a job that is based on shit that really matters cos in the not to distant future thats the only kind of job in NZ that will be left

Oamaru the carpet factory has just gone tits up

quote from the mayor" people are buying the cheaper nylon carpets, which are cheaper and shoddier , Thats why the company was running at a loss)

right there is your answers

Stephen

[breakaway]

It's not going to get any better when twats keep buying stuff on the net from overseas for small personal financial gains.

Perhaps instead of complaining so much, they should investigate why their business model is failing and take steps to improve?

[Madness]

Perhaps instead of complaining so much, they should investigate why their business model is failing and take steps to improve it?

They are complaining? Where?

For those with limited intellect; I'd imagine it's pretty hard to come up with a strategy to combat international rivals who are often exempt from sales taxes & duties and operate in foreign markets up to 700 times the size of our own with the benefits that provides in terms of buying power, logistical efficiencies and ability to discount.

To suggest that retailers need to adapt to the market in this scenario is simply naive. You cunts that disagree can do what you like, obviously. It's going to be a sad day though when there's fuck all bike shops left and all you same cunts complain about having to order an oil filter from the U.S for anything that's not a GSXR/CBR/WTF.