Smart technology aims to help iCops. This should be interesting!

[willytheekid]

http://www.stuff.co.nz/technology/ga...-to-help-iCops

Why are they buying the most over priced, unsecure "hipster" technology available? ($163 million dollars!!)

I would have thought security would be the primary concern for there line of work(That = Blackberry!)...or maybe even focus on the cost to save the NZ public's tax money (That would rule Apple out immediately!)


...mind you, Apple does do a great job making technology usable for all (Nice simple layout etc...yes...thats a nice way of saying even techno retards can use them...not a cheap shot!, thats the beauty of apple products, its usable technology for ALL)

I can see the devices being very useful in the feild, and it is about time they got some decent tech*

...but is the price right?




ps: I will be waiting for someone to release an Iphone APP called "track da popo"...just ONE of the many exploited flaws in Apple devices...but the real time tracking is acurate!

*I used to look after the Popo's national network, stations, emergency phones etc etc...and the Govt usually screws them on tech upgrades etc

[Gremlin]

Devices have passwords and can be remotely wiped...

Apple has a better chance of survival than BlackBerry unfortunately...

[Kermit250]

Apple has MDM functionality that the competition haven't even clicked onto yet. It's far more ideal for this scenario than any of the other kit out there at this current time

[bogan]

They do have some of the best hardware out there, and the best reputation for it. Consumers pay a big premium for that, but I'd hope the cops got a sweet deal.

The bigger question, is do they come with hands free kits?

[steve_t]

Apple has a better chance of survival than BlackBerry unfortunately...

Exactly. If the Z10 isn't a raging success, BB will probably be no more. So, if you kit your cops out with them and the company goes under, then what?

[Scuba_Steve]

Real question is how are these communicating??? that's gonna be the real weakness, not the device they're running on

& FYI many organisations have declared the Apple devices "safe" for use, big banks, insurance, Govts etc
Blackberry would've increased price as all the back-end that goes along with them & the fact the devices themselves are no cheaper anyways but theoretically more secure maybee?

[Kermit250]

Including Australian Department of Defence (declaring them safe).

MDM would be working via Apples APNS stuff. Probably something along the lines of a VPN connection back to base.

This is great, the hours of paperwork for an arrest may be able to be streamlined for them (meaning more time again actually being able to be out there doing something)

[willytheekid]

Apple has MDM functionality that the competition haven't even clicked onto yet. It's far more ideal for this scenario than any of the other kit out there at this current time

Ahh, most devices have "fleet" management, samsung, blackberry, nokia and many thrid party suppliers offer this service

I actually Like Apple products...they work well, have a lot of features etc, but as far as security for "fleet" devices.....ONLY blackberry has a fully secure network that provides user and device Authentication and lock down...and its NEVER been hacked (Always been touted as the most secure phone on the planet...just look at celebs, US president etc etc...they all use them..not because they "like" blackberry...but they know its the most secure handset on the planet (But they are bloody clunky things compared too apple & samsung etc)

Me, couldn't give to shits about what product....if it works, great!

...its just the cost of apple products thats at question. (they sure can charge! lol)

[Scuba_Steve]

This is great, the hours of paperwork for an arrest may be able to be streamlined for them (meaning more time again actually being able to be out there doing something)

So expect the permanent 4km speed scam tolerance soon then???

[Kermit250]

Ahh, most devices have "fleet" management, samsung, blackberry, nokia and many thrid party suppliers offer this service

I actually Like Apple products...they work well, have a lot of features etc, but as far as security for "fleet" devices.....ONLY blackberry has a fully secure network that provides user and device Authentication and lock down...and its NEVER been hacked (Always been touted as the most secure phone on the planet...just look at celebs, US president etc etc...they all use them..not because they "like" blackberry...but they know its the most secure handset on the planet (But they are bloody clunky things compared too apple & samsung etc)

Me, couldn't give to shits about what product....if it works, great!

...its just the cost of apple products thats at question. (they sure can charge! lol)

To my knowledge neither has the Apple system been successfully compromised yet.

"fleet" management or MDM from the other companies pales in comparison to the functionality that Apple's system offers currently for very little cost. Overall cost wise it is probably actually cheaper than Blackberries solution because the required infrastructure for it is really very light. The pricing the Government will be getting for this is quite a bit less than what we see in the retail market.
Still expensive, yeah - but certainly reasonable.

Also a good proportion of our Police force are not exactly the most saavy folk. One of the great things with iOS is it's ability to be able to be used with ease by a lot of people (obviously nothing is anywhere near perfect with this yet).

I'd agree that Blackberry would be my next choice but I have a lack in confidence in them surviving as a company.

[Kermit250]

So expect the permanent 4km speed scam tolerance soon then???

Everyone is always raving on that they should be doing some "real work" and catching the "real crims". Perhaps this will help towards doing a bit more that eh?

[Gremlin]

Exactly. If the Z10 isn't a raging success, BB will probably be no more. So, if you kit your cops out with them and the company goes under, then what?

More of an issue for BlackBerry, as it has it's own communication network, BlackBerry APN at service provider etc.

I had a BlackBerry, client has them, coupled them to BES servers and the control and security is unmatched. Fallen over on App support however...

Apparently the money has to come from the existing budget, which is stupid, but if it means less unpaid overtime etc filing paper, hell yes, do it. Just for god's sake don't do another Insys...

[bogan]

Everyone is always raving on that they should be doing some "real work" and catching the "real crims". Perhaps this will help towards doing a bit more that eh?

Well, unless they use apple maps...

[Kermit250]

Lol that was a good one.

Personally I've never had a problem with Apple maps, although I find I use google maps more often anyway because I'm more familiar with it and it's more forgiving for a misspelling or typo.

[willytheekid]

To my knowledge neither has the Apple system been successfully compromised yet.

"fleet" management or MDM from the other companies pales in comparison to the functionality that Apple's system offers currently for very little cost. Overall cost wise it is probably actually cheaper than Blackberries solution because the required infrastructure for it is really very light. The pricing the Government will be getting for this is quite a bit less than what we see in the retail market.
Still expensive, yeah - but certainly reasonable.

Also a good proportion of our Police force are not exactly the most saavy folk. One of the great things with iOS is it's ability to be able to be used with ease by a lot of people (obviously nothing is anywhere near perfect with this yet).

I'd agree that Blackberry would be my next choice but I have a lack in confidence in them surviving as a company.

Nice!

Totally agree with apple's "user friendly" devices , they are damn smart in that regard...make the tech accessable to all...unlike blackberry etc (I used to be the afterhour blackberry SME for telecom...not the best devices for the "not so tech savy" to learn lol)

I certainly hope the Govt got a deal....its a big investment! (And tech can be outdated so quickly nowdays)

But like most on here, i agree, the new tech will help the popo's immensely!, and hopefuly it will save money in the long term
And as someone who babysits corporates and there technology for a job (And previously the popo's tech)...I certainly hope the support services for these new devices has also been tested! (Vodafone is not generally known for its great service support at this level)

...I certainly hope the popos enjoy the new tech, and it works out for them...end of the day, it keeps techy nerds like me employed!