Hampton Downs officially in trouble

[HenryDorsetCase]

HERE HERE....Say it LOUDER. It's probably because the race track builders/proposers/owners can't afford to feed the politicians their usual back-handers!!!!

No, I dont think corruption is at issue. I think it is the ridiculous amount of political clout weilded by the NZRFU. Way out of proportion to its importance. I never liked rugby, but I started to hate it when it became "professional"

[scrivy]

Big meetings draw big spectator numbers. Especially international events.
How many spectators do these 40, 50, 60 thousand people stadiums have at most weekends?

Imagine how much advertising the clubs, promotors, track owners could do if the goverment had helped out like they do with the fooseball stadiums. The spectator attendence would be massive, and the tracks would not go belly up. Period.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Big meetings draw big spectator numbers. Especially international events.
How many spectators do these 40, 50, 60 thousand people stadiums have at most weekends?

Imagine how much advertising the clubs, promotors, track owners could do if the goverment had helped out like they do with the fooseball stadiums. The spectator attendence would be massive, and the tracks would not go belly up. Period.

Sure, but the political reality is that it will not happen.

It is also interesting that less and less people care about rugby these days. there are so many other sporting and entertainment options, people's work habits have changed, blahdeblah.

[scott411]

The track extension had the foundations laid and was preloaded several years ago, it just needed sealing. In a nutshell: Get Resource Consent= get V8 Supercars= get sealing done.

The reason the V8's wont go there is because the promotor wont touch the place, the promotor wont touch the place because the best viewing area is the apartments, the apartments are mostly privetly owned so no promotor can stop people going in there, (and their is no major event clause for them to fall back on)

so apartments = no revenue for the promotor, and take up where you would put a heap of paying poeple, he can charge everybody at Pukekohe,

and also Pukekohe is in the supercity, so he can go after the supercity promo budget, Hampton Downs is in the Waikato, he has already bled that budget dry

[Zedder]

The reason the V8's wont go there is because the promotor wont touch the place, the promotor wont touch the place because the best viewing area is the apartments, the apartments are mostly privetly owned so no promotor can stop people going in there, (and their is no major event clause for them to fall back on)

so apartments = no revenue for the promotor, and take up where you would put a heap of paying poeple, he can charge everybody at Pukekohe,

and also Pukekohe is in the supercity, so he can go after the supercity promo budget, Hampton Downs is in the Waikato, he has already bled that budget dry

Have a read about what the V8 Supercar boss Tony Cochrane said:http://www.nzherald.co.nz/motoring/n...ectid=10830310

[quickbuck]

........backed by Tony Quinns dollar.

Roomer has it that he offered to help HD out a few months back, but told his offer was too low.....

Thing is your first offer is usually the best you will get......

[scott411]

Have a read about what the V8 Supercar boss Tony Cochrane said:http://www.nzherald.co.nz/motoring/n...ectid=10830310

would you run a race at a venue where you could not charge for the best veiwing positions?

and would you blame the motorsport poeple who own those apartments pubically when you still want thier dollars up the road?

or would you blame a big faceless organsation that everyone hates anyway (the resource managment act and the people that adminsiter it)

[Zedder]

would you run a race at a venue where you could not charge for the best veiwing positions?

and would you blame the motorsport poeple who own those apartments pubically when you still want thier dollars up the road?

or would you blame a big faceless organsation that everyone hates anyway (the resource managment act and the people that adminsiter it)

I'm just presenting some facts and quotes scott411. Where are yours?

Incidently, the NZTA (who are not faceless) were the stumbling block initially to gaining the Resource Consent if you read the info correctly.

[Deano]

Incidently, the NZTA (who are not faceless) were the stumbling block initially to gaining the Resource Consent if you read the info correctly.

Is that due to traffic jams on the motorway ?

Is there enough room on the road (after the off ramp) for vehicles to go up, then turn back and into the carpark to avoid said traffic jams ? It would certainly grid lock the side road, but leave the motorway free.

[scott411]

I'm just presenting some facts and quotes scott411. Where are yours?

Incidently, the NZTA (who are not faceless) were the stumbling block initially to gaining the Resource Consent if you read the info correctly.

I dont have facts i can quote, but i have heard this talk and you do not need to beleive me, it seems very logical to me tho, and i know they have had run ins with the NZ v8's and even the super tourers, a coupe of years ago the Tier one car meeting did not go their either,

I would call NZTA faceless as well, hardly one person to blame, its a goverment department,

the Prison was also an objector, another goverment department,

[Deano]

I would call NZTA faceless as well, hardly one person to blame, its a goverment department,

the Prison was also an objector, another goverment department,

Haha - prisoners have no rights, why the hell did they object ?

Andy Knackerhead is the face of NZTA - they even list his cell phone number on their website. I bet he doesn't answer it after hours.

[Zedder]

Is that due to traffic jams on the motorway ?

Is there enough room on the road (after the off ramp) for vehicles to go up, then turn back and into the carpark to avoid said traffic jams ? It would certainly grid lock the side road, but leave the motorway free.

The NZTA head in charge of highways, apparently said it would "absolutely block up the main artery in and out of Auckland".

Feeder roads weren't mentioned as far as I could tell.

[Deano]

The NZTA head in charge of highways, apparently said it would "absolutely block up the main artery in and out of Auckland".

Feeder roads weren't mentioned as far as I could tell.

Yeah that's what I thought. I don't know how long the feeder road is but just thought it was an option to take the load off the m/way. Either way it would certainly choke the feeder road up. Maybe that's why the prison objected ?

[HenryDorsetCase]

would you run a race at a venue where you could not charge for the best veiwing positions?

and would you blame the motorsport poeple who own those apartments pubically when you still want thier dollars up the road?

or would you blame a big faceless organsation that everyone hates anyway (the resource managment act and the people that adminsiter it)

or the short sighted munters who sold the apartments to get the cash flow but then gave up any control over them and thus any ability to attract the top earning race. Sure, it probably looked fairly attractive to them cashflow wise early in the piece to build the apartments, flog them off, and get the tin in the bin, but its royally fucked them now. What that says to me is that they were undercapitalised going in, and its gone from bad to worse... From memory those apartments were around the $450k mark? something like that.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Haha - prisoners have no rights, why the hell did they object ?

Andy Knackerhead is the face of NZTA - they even list his cell phone number on their website. I bet he doesn't answer it after hours.

phone him now and see