Hi-vis unlikely to be compulsory for cyclists

**Zedder** · 16th February 2013, 09:43

The last two lines are good:http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=10865794

**SMOKEU** · 16th February 2013, 15:22

If cagers are stupid enough to keep crashing into one another, then I don't see how high viz vests on cyclists will make any noticeable difference.

**Gremlin** · 16th February 2013, 15:44

Originally Posted by SMOKEU

If cagers are stupid enough to keep crashing into one another, then I don't see how high viz vests on cyclists will make any noticeable difference.

Pah, how about those that pull out in front of trucks... or try to beat trains

(of course, the train will swerve to avoid them, won't it?)

**BMWST?** · 16th February 2013, 16:54

Originally Posted by Gremlin

Pah, how about those that pull out in front of trucks... or try to beat trains

(of course, the train will swerve to avoid them, won't it?)

no need for that G everyone knows that those trains can stop on a dime

**cheshirecat** · 16th February 2013, 18:22

Probably more a comment on the effectiveness of the cycling lobby

**Zedder** · 16th February 2013, 19:01

Originally Posted by cheshirecat

Probably more a comment on the effectiveness of the cycling lobby

Possibly so, given the new bylaw in Auckland potentially allowing two way cycling on one way streets.

**BMWST?** · 16th February 2013, 19:11

Originally Posted by Zedder

Possibly so, given the new bylaw in Auckland potentially allowing two way cycling on one way streets.

that wont end well

**Zedder** · 16th February 2013, 19:27

Originally Posted by BMWST?

that wont end well

Maybe, but it shows how powerful the cycle lobby groups in Auckland are.

**Tigadee** · 16th February 2013, 19:33

Originally Posted by BMWST?

everyone knows that those trains can stop on a dime

I dunno...

Don't they use drum brakes?

**McFatty1000** · 16th February 2013, 20:12

Two way cycles on one way streets could work ok? Given a separate path for the other direction?

**Berries** · 16th February 2013, 20:22

Originally Posted by McFatty1000

Two way cycles on one way streets could work ok? Given a separate path for the other direction?

It is an issue that is being discussed in Dunedin at the moment. It's actually the only solution I can see working as I can't imagine anyone having the balls to stand up and take away all the parking that they would have to remove to fit a 'safe' cycle lane on the one way system any other way.

**Zedder** · 16th February 2013, 21:01

Originally Posted by Berries

It is an issue that is being discussed in Dunedin at the moment. It's actually the only solution I can see working as I can't imagine anyone having the balls to stand up and take away all the parking that they would have to remove to fit a 'safe' cycle lane on the one way system any other way.

A lane on opposite sides is one option for one way streets while another option, still under discussion, is to have the cycle lanes on the left handside of parked cars if it's a two way street.

**Berries** · 16th February 2013, 23:07

There are lots of options, just most of them that retain an on street facility don't actually result in a 'safe' place to ride a push bike. Riding between the kerb and the parked cars is one of the options being looked at down here. I'm not convinced myself but hey, due to the helmet laws I won't ride a push bike in NZ anyway.

**Motig** · 17th February 2013, 06:30

Hi viz- waste of time, wont make the motorist see any better. As for cycle lanes - all good if its included in new roading but trying to put cycle lanes on existing roads which were not designed for them = disaster for both rider and driver.

**Zedder** · 17th February 2013, 08:35

Originally Posted by Berries

There are lots of options, just most of them that retain an on street facility don't actually result in a 'safe' place to ride a push bike. Riding between the kerb and the parked cars is one of the options being looked at down here. I'm not convinced myself but hey, due to the helmet laws I won't ride a push bike in NZ anyway.

Interestingly enough, a cycle lobby group wants to scrap the helmet laws for adults because they say it's stopping people riding.