Harley Davidson put hard word on AMPS

[HenryDorsetCase]

Well the thing is mate...Triumph in NZ is near neck and neck in sales with HD for new sales of 650cc plus motorsickles. Suzuki nowhere near it.

are those stats published anywhere?

[Crasherfromwayback]

are those stats published anywhere?

Not sure about to the general public. But as licenced motor vehicle dealers we all get 'em.

[Drew]

Mate...an M109R IS an awesome bike. But at 22 odd grand...vs an HD at 23500.00 (with factory alarm, two years roadside assist, cheap insurance, better resale etc etc)..that argument is no longer valid.

Out of interest, what model Harley specifically?

[Crasherfromwayback]

Out of interest, what model Harley specifically?

FXDB. Dyna Streetbob.

[Drew]

the rort in the Harley Hyphen Davidson range is the sportsters. They are too expensive here and too close in price to the base big twins. they need to be priced closer to their US prices.

MHO

I actually thought that the XR1200 is quite well priced. Might be thinking of a limited time price, but it's a fuckin horny lookin bike for fifteen grand.

[Drew]

FXDB. Dyna Streetbob.

I dunno fuck all about Harley's. Is the bike comparable, or does another model better suit head to head comparison?

[ducatilover]

I actually thought that the XR1200 is quite well priced. Might be thinking of a limited time price, but it's a fuckin horny lookin bike for fifteen grand.

I'll 'ave an orange one thanks. Only modern HarleyDerpson I like. So much prettyness

[trustme]

Gee I wonder why HD don't want Triumph in the same showroom

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/motoring/n...ectid=10865664

No I am not picking sides. I am sure HD will see Triumph as their closest competitor, in many instances the ranges don't compliment they compete. I can understand HD & I have sympathy for Ray , stuck between a rock & a hard place.

[jafar]

Well the thing is mate...Triumph in NZ is near neck and neck in sales with HD for new sales of 650cc plus motorsickles. Suzuki nowhere near it.

I didn't know that, well done Triumph !!

So your in effect saying that HD is now starting to look @ Triumph as a serious threat in the NZ market & are taking steps to slow their growth?

Or is this more of a worldwide move by HD to get their dealerships into line??

Also your missing the point about who owns who, HD won't want to pick a fight with Suzuki, Suzuki worldwide is a much harder organisation to bully around than a small locally owned distributor so they are having a go @ the up & coming brand (trumpy)

[sugilite:Me]

Watching the Suzuki vs Harley ratio in regards to show room space favour Harley more and more over the (many) years at Wellington Motorcycles. The only reason for that would be sales related, so I dare say they could easily survive with out Suzuki. Interesting to hear Triumph and HD are neck and neck above 650. Personally, I like Triumphs more and more as they evolve. Though I'm sure HD is evolving as well, there is a lot less visual evidence of that imho. I do get why HD would not want to risk changing an obviously winning strategy, but I do feel shutting Buell down was a needless knee jerk reaction. They never seemed to have as much zest marketing those as they did for their bread and butter cruisers.

[HenryDorsetCase]

I actually thought that the XR1200 is quite well priced. Might be thinking of a limited time price, but it's a fuckin horny lookin bike for fifteen grand.

For 15k it would have to be second hand: New they were $18k and they have dropped it from the range i think

[GrayWolf]

For 15k it would have to be second hand: New they were $18k and they have dropped it from the range i think

yes the one HD that you could honestly say was serious/better competition for most of the triumph range (bonnies & t/bird) they stop importing it, then show triumph the door? in dual dealerships....

As I posted earlier, not the first time the English have threatened the poor american 'supermachine'

[HenryDorsetCase]

I'll 'ave an orange one thanks. Only modern HarleyDerpson I like. So much prettyness

There were a couple on the trackday I was at a couple weeks ago. One in particular had Vance and Hines pipes (also Ohlins shocks and racetech stickers on the forks) and sounded FANTASTIC bombing down the main straight at Ruapuna. Sounded kind of like a Spitfire. Not really but very satisfying to hear. Looked fairly quick through the turny bits on the infield too.