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[Deano]

Examples:

Vic Club of late has learned tragic lessons with riders not maintaining race pace, now highlighting the issue every meeting, yet down South I found myself on track with a rider trickling around for several laps with his hand up. I only found out later (no heads up given as I went out) he was allowed out to bed in a set brakes.

At least he had his hand up. The guy I hit didn't and cost me a week in hospital and a shot at the title. This was in bloody qualifying and he left the pit lane at the front of the field. Duh

[Billy]

Yeah....naaah. There was actually some reasonable discussion going on, and awareness within the racing community was being raised. If some posts crossed the line (whatever that is) delete said posts, don't remove the whole thread.

I'm out at work at the moment, listening/watching to Australian radio/TV and this was one of the stories last night:

http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/-...ils-drug-test/

Timely much?

Many perceive lack of communication as a major problem within our sport and I don't believe stifling discussion helps. We seem to have to learn things individually rather than collectively.

Examples:

Vic Club of late has learned tragic lessons with riders not maintaining race pace, now highlighting the issue every meeting, yet down South I found myself on track with a rider trickling around for several laps with his hand up. I only found out later (no heads up given as I went out) he was allowed out to bed in a set brakes.

I also found myself lapping a slower rider in just 5 lap race, and he spoke to me after wards. His engine had twice cut out. He pulled off track each time, where he managed to restart, so pulled back on and resumed racing. Once, I can sorta understand, but twice?! I hate to think what would have happened if we'd come up on him as his engine died again, or as he pulled off/on track.

Nothing against these guys, they didn't know any different, which is my point. Awareness. Only way we become aware is by threads like the one that has been deleted. We don't get anything from MNZ except when they wish to tell us about awards for their website. Bugger the awards, communicate about some worthwhile stuff.

What a lot of old tripe Spud,The internet and any public forum is OBVIOUSLY not the place to have sensitive MNZ business discussed,READ THE RULEBOOK,Most of the information is already available either in there,Or in any supp regs approved by me as roadrace commissioner for any meetings held under an MNZ permit.

If you require any additional info and it is not already available on the MNZ website,Contact me at your first convenience,I am always available and ensure that any queries are followed up,As has been suggested by the moderator of this thread,To date 4 people have contacted me requesting info on the removal of the original thread,On hearing my reasoning ALL have agreed it was the right thing to do,Including the OP,Despite his rant on Facebook this morning about freedom of speech.

[slowpoke]

I suspect your chum with the intermittent breakdown fault either did know different, or is stone deaf.
The MNZ steward made himself perfectly clear at the briefing.

True, but it certainly wasn't made an issue the way Skunk and co drum it into us at Vic Club following previous tragedy's. It just struck me that the learnings at different clubs are vastly different. The scrutineer down there was right on the ball with filters wired correctly after the spill the previous year (wire pulling filter undone rather than done up), something which hasn't really been pushed up North. Hence my reference to individual rather than collective learning.

I realise these things are sensitive but it seems doubly tragic that these terrible events happen and we aren't able to learn anything from them. Twice I've been at a track in the last 12 or so months where crashes have resulted in the worst possible outcome. One I witnessed directly so I know in graphic detail exactly what happened, the other I haven't the faintest idea what went wrong. Rumour has it something mechanical, something I could be doing, or might do wrong myself

There is a completely understandable "now is not the time" sentiment..............but another time and further information never seems to eventuate. I guess this will be the same but it just seems to add to the tragedy that other comptitors aren't able to learn from it.

[307a]

I think you'll find he's happy to respond to any queries through official channels, but not on any uncontrolled forum.

Uncontrolled my arse

[RobGassit]

Hey look on the bright side of this guy's. At least now you are in no doubt as to who is running the show.

[Maha]

Hey look on the bright side of this guy's. At least now you are in no doubt as to who is running the show.

Alison Mau wants that thread about her being a lover of women removed...

[307a]

Alison Mau wants that thread about her being a lover of women removed...

I want your post remove wanker

[307a]

I want your post remove wanker

Fuck it remove all threads ever started

[Smifffy]

Alison Mau wants that thread about her being a lover of women removed...

Well, then I guess Alison could get in touch with MT, explain her reasoning, and if MT saw fit he could remove the thread. Same goes for the hypothetical NZRFU example. I guess if enough cry babies decided that they needed to vote with their feet, then perhaps a policy change could be in order.

I think the site is moderated fairly for the most part. In the realms of the hypothetical, what if the NZ Popo wanted all the cop threads deleted? Well so what if they did? For all the waaaaaing going on, 4 people so far have bothered to actually go to the trouble of following up in the way that was originally instructed. Apparently now that those people are in possession of the facts, they accept the removal.

[GrayWolf]

I was reading that thread very closely. I fully support it being deleted.

Online forums are not here for all and sundry to say the shit on there.

Oh the IRONY in THAT comment!

[SWERVE]

F**K me......... the thread discussing the removal of the thread is nearly as big again............. round and round in circles with lots of sarcasm and wit..... but very little valuable input. KB Rules

[Drew]

Uncontrolled my arse

Do we know each other? You seem like the kinda guy I would have told to his face, "you're a fuckwit", and walked away.

Oh the IRONY in THAT comment!

It's not lost, even on me.

But the fuckwit above said enough to have the thread shut down, even if Marcus didn't.

[Drew]

F**K me......... the thread discussing the removal of the thread is nearly as big again............. round and round in circles with lots of sarcasm and wit..... but very little valuable input. KB Rules

Whoa whoa whoa. What are you even on about?

Who said there was meant to be valuable input?

[slowpoke]

What a lot of old tripe Spud,The internet and any public forum is OBVIOUSLY not the place to have sensitive MNZ business discussed,READ THE RULEBOOK,Most of the information is already available either in there,Or in any supp regs approved by me as roadrace commissioner for any meetings held under an MNZ permit.

If you require any additional info and it is not already available on the MNZ website,Contact me at your first convenience,I am always available and ensure that any queries are followed up,As has been suggested by the moderator of this thread,To date 4 people have contacted me requesting info on the removal of the original thread,On hearing my reasoning ALL have agreed it was the right thing to do,Including the OP,Despite his rant on Facebook this morning about freedom of speech.

Take it how you will Billy, but the post was meant constructively.

Where in the rulebook does it tell me why I get emails from MNZ about a bullshit award for it's website but don't receive safety information or alerts/reminders or findings related to incidents? MNZ could/should have sent out an email highlighting the Mobil 98 issue for example, instead a competitor could easily rock up to HD or Taupo and repeat Choppa's innocent mistake.

No-one expects the full nitty gritty during sensitive times, but as it is we get virtually no information about anything, ever. I know MNZ has safety as one of it's primary goals, but they don't half make it hard for themselves through poor/zero communication.

[kiwifruit]