IAM free observed rides, Christchurch

[Mushu]

Hey Mushu, I was trying to make this as clear as i could and didnt realise you had waited so long for an answer - apologies extended.

As previously mentioned, we all do what we do voluntarily and whilst everyones best intention is to help it doesnt always work out. Eg i cannot attend tomorrow as i have this stupid munted back. Which is also the only reason I have time right now to be on here doing this. Another eg is the delayed response.

You are however quite right it was not originally mentioned and should of been.Also thanks for pointing out about the national website . we can pass that info back to national .

Anyone can get hold of the ' roadcraft' books and we can gladly sell u a copy at cost (we sell them to inform not for profit).

The skills for life programme is just that a programme not a 1 off course. It's an opportunity to work your way through 'roadcraft' alongside and being encouraged and cheered on by someone who already has and still does ride that way. For some this may take a few months for others it could be year or more of regular sessions with a mentor( we call them assessors, an assessor has then undergone further training to ride along with someone and give them feedback).

We would be pleased to see you at one of our meeting times.

Here's hoping you keep safe and shiny side up.

P.s. i hate communicating this way as so much can easily be interpreted in an unbecoming way. That is why we put out the invitation , to avoid confusion and see that we are real people with a genuine passion to help others be safe on our roads.

I would be happy to purchase a copy of the manual as I am sure there is plenty of good info in there, hence my wanting to participate in the assessment, can you please PM me the price and some details, perhaps your phone number so I can call to organize pickup of the manual.

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[BMWST?]

I think part of what mushu is getting at, and I may be wrong is possibly the perception of IAM being the ambulance at the bottom of the hill. This is not a criticism, this is a voluntary org which a lot of people clearly hold in high regard. But it's frustrating for people like myself who want to learn the right things from the get go, not half way down the track and then have to unlearn bad habits. JMTCW. Like I said, not a criticism ..

there are other courses more appropriate for your requirements.You dont jump straight into 3rd levels studies when you are a 1st year student...IAM stands for institute of advanced motorists

[bosslady]

there are other courses more appropriate for your requirements.You dont jump straight into 3rd levels studies when you are a 1st year student...IAM stands for institute of advanced motorists

Yup expensive courses, hundreds of dollars, that only last one day. Any reasonable person would realise you can't go from zero to hero but what I said up above, still stands.

[BMWST?]

Yup expensive courses, hundreds of dollars, that only last one day. Any reasonable person would realise you can't go from zero to hero but what I said up above, still stands.

Yes fair enough the original post does not state any "conditions".

[Ratti]

My problem was with the fact you never offered the information that you must have a full license to be assessed until the last couple of days (this includes on your website) as I was looking forward to free training at what I assumed would be of a pretty high level and with the assumption you would train those that need it (less experienced riders) you can imagine my disappointment. As I also said I no longer want your training (due to having to wait around for a simple reply and other factors) and am happy to get my own hands on the publications used as the basis for your course and seek training with a well known accredited instructor.

Actually, what these folk do is NOT TRAINING. They demonstrate a way of riding, tell you how you might like to change your way of riding and leave you to make the choice. What you want is INSTRUCTION, and you can get that from "a well known accredited instructor" for which time and experience you will have to , rightly imho, pay your hard earned dollars. The two things are very different, and I suspect you will not be able to take the rather extensive correction the VOLUNTEERS will be offering.

just saying

[Mushu]

Actually, what these folk do is NOT TRAINING. They demonstrate a way of riding, tell you how you might like to change your way of riding and leave you to make the choice. What you want is INSTRUCTION, and you can get that from "a well known accredited instructor" for which time and experience you will have to , rightly imho, pay your hard earned dollars. The two things are very different, and I suspect you will not be able to take the rather extensive correction the VOLUNTEERS will be offering.

just saying

I was looking for instruction in roadcraft more so than actual riding technique and I thought a bit of free critiquing wouldn't go amiss, I have since meet with Duncan who was great, got me a copy of the police riders handbook (from which their course is based) and offered to follow me on a quick ride to give me a few pointers, which is pretty much exactly what I was after. I'm currently reading and practicing the book before I take him up on his offer of that ride.

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[stormerUK]

IAM Observers are Advanced Motorcycle Riders who have progressed to be extensively trained in the methods of being able to detect riders needs, able not only to explain the needs to them and the reasoning behind the changes but give them demonstation rides complete with ongoing commentry whilst doing so. The purpose of the Correction/training/observations (what's in a name?) is to develop a safer rider who will be more aware of his ability and limitations and hence greatly reduce his risk factor whilst enjoying his/her favourite pastime of means of commuting and inevitably increase his/her journey progress.
The Observer gains no monetry recompense just the satisfaction of seeing advanced techniques helping keep another fellow biker riding safer.
Mushu you have the right mindset for biking training , enjoy your ride with Duncan..he is a good correction officer..