The value of money has dropped by two thirds in 30 years

[Zedder]

And when they fuck it up ... someone has to pay for it. That's gonna come as a pleasant surprise on top of every other rate, water, electricity etc... rise v's stagnant wage growth. I may have to revisit my guess that the US will be the place that goes tits first.

They're Celtic descendants, no surprises there.

[scumdog]

Who cares? - it's not like any of you can do anything about it eh...

[imdying]

Bit like Jews getting gassed eh Scummy

[mashman]

Who cares? - it's not like any of you can do anything about it eh...

... stop measuring us by your yardstick fucko. It's because of you that nothing is done mr take it up the arse roll me over then dip me in negativity whilst I play dead with my head in a bucket of sand

[Akzle]

I like the cold. I miss it dearly. Fortunately shit will be growing elsewhere.

like.... not on earth?

Who cares? - it's not like any of you can do anything about it eh...

i can! i had a brilliant idea - i'd get on a rocketship with a nuclear weapon and fly to the asteroid, drill to the core, deposit the nuke, take off and remote detonate it!

fucken genius or what? i've been collecting hemp oil and twigs, and nearly have enough twine to build the rocket.... if i could just stop smoking all the oil...

[davereid]

And when they fuck it up, someone has to pay for it

Sadly that person is always the working class. The rich can dodge it. The truly poor have no more to give. But there is always someone who can pay.

[mashman]

like.... not on earth?

Toadally duuuude... Mars has some seasonal growings and fortunately mushies lubs the dark. If all else fails we can go out in a technicoloured dream. Hey man, check out my telescope coz I coulda sworn I just saw a rocket that looked like it was made of hemp oil and twigs carrying a nuclear device and a big fuckoff drill bit. Ooooo, rainbow pony

Sadly that person is always the working class. The rich can dodge it. The truly poor have no more to give. But there is always someone who can pay.

Aye that's a bitter pill to swallow. I guess it kinda goes hand in hand with your Credit Reporting thread. We know how much you have, we know how frivolously you live, we think you can pay more and will dream up any number of approaches to eek that cash outta ya. War on the middle classes will no doubt have business casualties, but that's progress for ya eh .

[oldrider]

Historically, having the Gold Standard has stopped inflation. That isn't pointless.

Using grains of sand as an analogy for value is wrong. Why is gold expensive and sand cheap?

Call it what you like, the true wealth of any society is its ability to produce goods and services coupled with it's ability to consume them.

An individual's true wealth is their ability to consume the available goods and services that it creates.

It is therefore the current purchasing power of your dollar, relative to the cost of production that is important.

The problems faced with monetary system failings are man made therefore the solutions are man made also.

What is missing is the "human will" to front up and solve the problem, mainly due to fear of losing perceived "personal advantage" created along with the problem!

Create a need and then exploit the greed ... it is knowledge and ignorance that allows any faulty system to exist and prevail!

[mashman]

Call it what you like, the true wealth of any society is its ability to produce goods and services coupled with it's ability to consume them.

An individual's true wealth is their ability to consume the available goods and services that it creates.

It is therefore the current purchasing power of your dollar, relative to the cost of production that is important.

The problems faced with monetary system failings are man made therefore the solutions are man made also.

What is missing is the "human will" to front up and solve the problem, mainly due to fear of losing perceived "personal advantage" created along with the problem!

Create a need and then exploit the greed ... it is knowledge and ignorance that allows any faulty system to exist and prevail!

Far too simplistic I'm afraid. Can you complicate the above a bit further please so that it makes less sense and then I can dismiss is as not being true.

[scumdog]

... stop measuring us by your yardstick fucko. It's because of you that nothing is done mr take it up the arse roll me over then dip me in negativity whilst I play dead with my head in a bucket of sand

So...lemme guess, you and imdying are full on doing something that will make a big change and make life better for all of us?

Well good on YOU guys, tell me how it all works out eh!

[mashman]

So...lemme guess, you and imdying are full on doing something that will make a big change and make life better for all of us?

Well good on YOU guys, tell me how it all works out eh!

I can't speak for imdying, and the mere thought kinda leave me feeling unclean, not full on (I have to work for a living) so more semi-part-time, but yes, I'm actually doing something. You?

You'll see how it works out... just be sure to tick my box ok sunshine.

[scumdog]

I can't speak for imdying, and the mere thought kinda leave me feeling unclean, not full on (I have to work for a living) so more semi-part-time, but yes, I'm actually doing something. You?

You'll see how it works out... just be sure to tick my box ok sunshine.

I just hope the disappointment isn't too crushing...

[mashman]

I just hope the disappointment isn't too crushing...

Just because you find it hard to handle failure doesn't mean that others do. Gotta try first.

[scumdog]

Just because you find it hard to handle failure doesn't mean that others do. Gotta try first.

Too true.

If you don't try? - you will never know failure eh!

And when you DO find failure let me know how you handle it.


(And I'm not sure what failure you think I found hard to handle...)

[mashman]

Too true.

If you don't try? - you will never know failure eh!

And when you DO find failure let me know how you handle it.


(And I'm not sure what failure you think I found hard to handle...)

I've failed at a few things thanks... some of them biggies. Meh, live and learn.

Failure is easy to handle. Learn what you can then try again. Rinse and repeat.

(you assumed that I couldn't handle failure, I assumed you knew what failure was based on that assumption)