The value of money has dropped by two thirds in 30 years

[mashman]

Of course not.

Dole bludgers AND DPB bludgers.

You sure. I reckon the rich bludgers are likely the culprits here. Probably all had to revalue what they're worth and have taken a haircut.

[Ocean1]

You sure. I reckon the rich bludgers are likely the culprits here. Probably all had to revalue what they're worth and have taken a haircut.

Yeah. Nah, the only haircut most rich pricks are getting is from production killing taxes.


And dole bludgers. http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/8463...-t-get-workers

[mashman]

Yeah. Nah, the only haircut most rich pricks are getting is from production killing taxes.

And dole bludgers. http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/8463...-t-get-workers

Production killing taxes? In 2008 the "rich" pricks had debt that was 126% of GDP, Now 96%... and the govt has gone from 11% to 25%. They must have been taking a haircut somewhere along the lines?

Cal me a whambulance. It ain't so easy when you want to find people to exploit who don't play the game eh. Praps they should offer a beer/drugs party binge at the end of each month as a "sweetener" for these guys to stay off substances whilst working (Note that only relates to when they're working, not their personal time. You can be sober and drug free during your working day after all.). That or the old meme rolled out by the right whingers of "pay peanuts, get monkeys".

[Ocean1]

Production killing taxes? In 2008 the "rich" pricks had debt that was 126% of GDP, Now 96%... and the govt has gone from 11% to 25%. They must have been taking a haircut somewhere along the lines?

Haircut? What the fuck are you on about? "Rich pricks" are "rich" precicely because they act sensibly, like reducing debt in a sluggish economic climate.

Whereas govt, being responsible for supplying beer and pokey funds to an exponentially increasing number of dole bludgers in a contracting economy has got to either stump up with less beer and pokey funds or borrow money.

Cal me a whambulance. It ain't so easy when you want to find people to exploit who don't play the game eh. Praps they should offer a beer/drugs party binge at the end of each month as a "sweetener" for these guys to stay off substances whilst working (Note that only relates to when they're working, not their personal time. You can be sober and drug free during your working day after all.). That or the old meme rolled out by the right whingers of "pay peanuts, get monkeys".

Yeah, we know they don't want to play the game. It's called "earn your own lunch" by the way. And you can kick and scream all you like, the guy buying the work has the right to say what sort of work he needs done, and most rich pricks don't need work done by fuckwit pissheads with an entitlement complex the size of Texas. They also don't need monkeys, which is unfortunate, because peanuts is all the dole bludgers are worth.

[mashman]

Haircut? What the fuck are you on about? "Rich pricks" are "rich" precicely because they act sensibly, like reducing debt in a sluggish economic climate.

Whereas govt, being responsible for supplying beer and pokey funds to an exponentially increasing number of dole bludgers in a contracting economy has got to either stump up with less beer and pokey funds or borrow money.

Yeah, we know they don't want to play the game. It's called "earn your own lunch" by the way. And you can kick and scream all you like, the guy buying the work has the right to say what sort of work he needs done, and most rich pricks don't need work done by fuckwit pissheads with an entitlement complex the size of Texas. They also don't need monkeys, which is unfortunate, because peanuts is all the dole bludgers are worth.

Reducing debt? Like cutting jobs to keep that bottom line healthy?

The govt have to carry the slack that those keeping their bottom line healthy have discarded.

Then they shouldn't be moaning. Why should the potential employee do all of the changing? @peanuts because that's all they're worth... and you wonder why they don't make an effort. Cutting ones nose off to spite ones face springs to mind for some reason. Way to meet the job market

[Ocean1]

Reducing debt? Like cutting jobs to keep that bottom line healthy?

Why would anyone cut jobs that keep the bottom line healthy? That's fuckwit material. What they do is cut the jobs costing more in pay than they earn the company. Pretty obvious innit? The reason they do that is to keep the company solvent and to thereby save the jobs actually producing revenue.

The govt have to carry the slack that those keeping their bottom line healthy have discarded.

Yep. Using money rorted from those remaining productive employees. Arseholes.

Why should the potential employee do all of the changing?

Um, because they're the one supposedly wanting a job, and as they couldn't keep the last one it's fucking obvious they need to start producing something for their employer to sell. Uncharted territory for most of 'em, unfortunately, as you read this morning.

[mashman]

Why would anyone cut jobs that keep the bottom line healthy? That's fuckwit material. What they do is cut the jobs costing more in pay than they earn the company. Pretty obvious innit? The reason they do that is to keep the company solvent and to thereby save the jobs actually producing revenue.

Yep. Using money rorted from those remaining productive employees. Arseholes.

Um, because they're the one supposedly wanting a job, and as they couldn't keep the last one it's fucking obvious they need to start producing something for their employer to sell. Uncharted territory for most of 'em, unfortunately, as you read this morning.

Sure, that's what they do and why they do it. The bottom line has fuck all to do with it.

The alternative being?

Yeah, it's all one way as I said. You want people to do X to produce $Y and you refuse to meet the market on their terms. Awesome strategy. If all else fails, you can cry and moan like a little bitch to the papers and they'll sympathise with your plight... as long as they know that people will swallow that shit because they still live in an era that demands a certain standard that isn't relatively available these days. As I said... cutting their nose off to spite their face. But they're offering the work, so they dictate the terms of employment ... wonder why they can't get "dedicated" member of staff.

[Brian d marge]

our Trace

poor we girl

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Stephen

[blue rider]

Yeah. Nah, the only haircut most rich pricks are getting is from production killing taxes.


And dole bludgers. http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/8463...-t-get-workers

http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/smal...ed-best-of-300

The other side....job-applicants-queues-long-but-unemployed-can-t-get-bosses

Lets repeat...there is no issue with high unemployment in New Zealand, everyone who wants a job can have one, and peeps who don't have a job, are lazy, unkempt, drug abusing dole bludgers etc etc. Really this mantra is getting very boring.

[blue rider]

Yeah. Nah, the only haircut most rich pricks are getting is from production killing taxes.


And dole bludgers. http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/8463...-t-get-workers

also this

http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/rebu...s-scam-exposed

[blue rider]

Yeah. Nah, the only haircut most rich pricks are getting is from production killing taxes.


And dole bludgers. http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/8463...-t-get-workers

and this

http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/indu...-fall-soon-ANZ

[mashman]

our Trace

poor we girl

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10151799412899867


Stephen

Typical, they bring on a Manc to make the case for doley's ... however I agree with her.

[Ocean1]

Sure, that's what they do and why they do it. The bottom line has fuck all to do with it.

The bottom line has everything to do with it. If it's in the red everyone loses their job, far better idea to flick the unproductive ones before they drag everyone else down with them.

The alternative being?

Pay them what they're worth. In most cases that's fuck all, and that means you can afford to look after the genuinely disabled ones.

Yeah, it's all one way as I said. You want people to do X to produce $Y and you refuse to meet the market on their terms. Awesome strategy. If all else fails, you can cry and moan like a little bitch to the papers and they'll sympathise with your plight... as long as they know that people will swallow that shit because they still live in an era that demands a certain standard that isn't relatively available these days. As I said... cutting their nose off to spite their face. But they're offering the work, so they dictate the terms of employment ... wonder why they can't get "dedicated" member of staff. ?

So, when you turn up at teh scooter shop for a new tyre and battery it's perfectly OK for them to replace your headlight bulb, give it a bit of a rub and charge you for a complete top end overhaul? Only, why the fuck should you expect to be calling the shot's there, eh?

Oh, that's right, silly me, 'CAUSE YOUR THE ONE FUCKING PAYING FOR IT.

[Ocean1]

http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/smal...ed-best-of-300

The other side....job-applicants-queues-long-but-unemployed-can-t-get-bosses

Lets repeat...there is no issue with high unemployment in New Zealand, everyone who wants a job can have one, and peeps who don't have a job, are lazy, unkempt, drug abusing dole bludgers etc etc. Really this mantra is getting very boring.

What's your point?

Mine was that if the unemployed behaved more like what business wanted they'd have better luck getting jobs. Pretty much exactly similar to your example.

[Ocean1]

also this

http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/rebu...s-scam-exposed

Damn, the secret's out, jobs in NZ are so easy and well paid that illiterate Philipinos will pay some criminal shitloads to get in on the gravy train.

And the native dole bludgers can't get a look in. Wonder why.