The value of money has dropped by two thirds in 30 years

[Brian d marge]

Paid not to notice most likely.



And you called the above OT... na noo na noo.

not my fault the tin hat interupted the cosmic vibe ...how could anyone stay on topic with such brutality occuring inside ones head ...

Stephen

[Akzle]

I hear that monsanto have branched out into mull seeds , get a nice crop one year and buy the seeds the next .....

that's been SOP for them since day dot.

but hey, it's coo' - they're solving the world's hunger problems

oh... wait on.

[Banditbandit]

So David Ike was right after all !

its a plot to enslave us all by reducing the buying power of money , making us slaves , and dependent on a few , and those few are as seen in the above video !

Stephen

duh.

(you're already slaves, or err, employees.
dumb corporate fiction motherfuckers.)

As he says ...

But it's unlikely they are really trying to enslave us .. the slave trade was abolished largely for economic reasons - it's true there were some human rights arguments, but the deciding argument was economic - and goes like this ...

It's cheaper to free the slaves and pay them shit wages than it is to keep slaves, feeding, housing and clothing them ...

Give them their freedom ... pay them shit wages, then they have to feed, house and clothe themselves .... Oh .. and pay the rest of the bills too ... But the employer makes even more profit from his enterprise, because the cost of labour is reduced but the price to sell the commodity stays the same.

Then you can tell them all what a good thing you have done for the ex-slaves and they will love you forever ...

Akzle is right - you are effectively enslaved now .. even if it looks like freedom ...

[Brian d marge]

Another group who have no friggen idea

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-22023291


the price of beer has gone up from 140 to 160 odd in 10 years , but my salary aint

idiots ( the article sums up how little these people understand economics )

Stephen

[mashman]

Another group who have no friggen idea

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-22023291


the price of beer has gone up from 140 to 160 odd in 10 years , but my salary aint

idiots ( the article sums up how little these people understand economics )

Stephen

"Falling prices discourage people from spending and companies from investing" I must be missing something there?

I dunno, using bonds plucked out of thin air to allow for the production of money out of thin air really doesn't seem to have worked too well... mind you, at least it's only the govt that carry the can.

[Ocean1]

I dunno, using bonds plucked out of thin air to allow for the production of money out of thin air really doesn't seem to have worked too well...

If you don't like the plucking of money from fresh air then I have a suggestion. Don't borrow money.

In the meantime those that want a mortgage don't have a problem with it, they'd rather you just minded your own business.

[oneofsix]

If you don't like the plucking of money from fresh air then I have a suggestion. Don't borrow money.

In the meantime those that want a mortgage don't have a problem with it, they'd rather you just minded your own business.

who the fuck WANTS a mortgage? Most want to own a property and the way the system is structured the only way to do that is via a mortgage. The mortgage is the down side, the trial of fire so to speak

[Banditbandit]

who the fuck WANTS a mortgage? Most want to own a property and the way the system is structured the only way to do that is via a mortgage. The mortgage is the down side, the trial of fire so to speak

That's so true ...

And today on national radio a story about house prices in Auckland ... apparently the average house price for sales in Auckland last month was $650,000. That's more than half a million dolalrs for a place to sleep warm, cook and eat food, fuck and wash ...

So much for the Kiwi dream of owning your own home ...

[Akzle]

If you don't like the plucking of money from fresh air then I have a suggestion. Don't borrow money.

the term "borrow money" is misleading. on account of they don't lend you anything.
you create money, with your signature (and a promise to continue slaving to "repay" - or do you?)

And today on national radio a story about house prices in Auckland ... apparently the average house price

...
20-30 years ago, wifey could stay at home and cook and clean and look after the kids and give heaps blowjobs. man could go to work and afford to feed wife and kids and to buy the house.

nowadays (thanks equal rights bitcheminists) it takes a working couple to scrape their kids though school, feed the clan and buy the house, in twice the term.

good fucking deal!

[mashman]

If you don't like the plucking of money from fresh air then I have a suggestion. Don't borrow money.

In the meantime those that want a mortgage don't have a problem with it, they'd rather you just minded your own business.

I don't borrow any money other than my mortgage that is... and the other folk have covered that little ditty well.

Mebees, Mebees not... but your leaders aren't willing to take the chance on finding that out, because that would mean that folk would be getting a free lunch. Your problem, not mine. Til then the money plucking pixies will continue to allow people to die. Soulless bastards really.

[Ocean1]

I don't borrow any money other than my mortgage that is... and the other folk have covered that little ditty well.

And someone reached into their pocket and peeled off a cool half a million for you, eh?

No?

Mebees, Mebees not... but your leaders aren't willing to take the chance on finding that out, because that would mean that folk would be getting a free lunch. Your problem, not mine. Til then the money plucking pixies will continue to allow people to die. Soulless bastards really.

I don't have a problem, you might have noticed; I'm not the one that want's the world to change 'cause it don't suit me. I also don't tend to expect anyone else to pay for my lunch, and I'm not silly enough to believe anyone else is responsible for those that choose to die rather than earn their keep.

So, when you took the lord's crown to pay for your hovel you figured that was your signal to bitch and moan about the fact that he had the coin and you didn't? How does that work, dude?

[Ocean1]

the term "borrow money" is misleading. on account of they don't lend you anything.
you create money, with your signature (and a promise to continue slaving to "repay" - or do you?)

If it helps think of it as a wager. Teh evel banker dude gives you, say 500k, in exchange you agree to give him 'prox 800k when you can scrape teh readies together. He's betting you can, or he loses his share of the pot. You're betting you can too, or you lose yours. And when you've paid it off the money actually does exist, dunnit? There's the value of a house sitting there to prove it.

So what's the problem?

20-30 years ago, wifey could stay at home and cook and clean and look after the kids and give heaps blowjobs. man could go to work and afford to feed wife and kids and to buy the house.

nowadays (thanks equal rights bitcheminists) it takes a working couple to scrape their kids though school, feed the clan and buy the house, in twice the term.

good fucking deal!

The difference has fuck all to do with the evel banks. Houses were half the size and had about a quarter of the toys.

There's another difference. Yo grandady worked a fucking sight harder than todays average whinging wage-earner.

So it shouldn't come as much of a surprise that money's worth far less nowadays, there's a fucking sight less work done to earn it.

[mashman]

And someone reached into their pocket and peeled off a cool half a million for you, eh?

No?

I don't have a problem, you might have noticed; I'm not the one that want's the world to change 'cause it don't suit me. I also don't tend to expect anyone else to pay for my lunch, and I'm not silly enough to believe anyone else is responsible for those that choose to die rather than earn their keep.

So, when you took the lord's crown to pay for your hovel you figured that was your signal to bitch and moan about the fact that he had the coin and you didn't? How does that work, dude?

They did I tell ya... although it wasn't quite a cool half mill as I paid my share .

I had noticed, each to his own I guess and I'm not expecting the world to change because I don't like it the way it is, just NZ for NOW. I don't expect it either, but I never used to (still do at times before catching myself) shit about how others made a living, a better description being how others are being allowed to make a living. Go tell that to some of the folk in Africa and India etc... I reckon they might disagree.

When I took his 30 pieces, I had a different view point. Thought that might have been quite self evident, anyhoo, apart from (which hurts by the way)@bitch and moan that the man has the $ and I don't, if that's all it was then I'd happily wear that description. As alluded to earlier, it happens coz I changed my mind, saw the light, I would say grew up but that just ain't neva gonnae happen, but essentially opened my eyes enough to understand that protecting human life is more important than protecting an economy that doesn't give a shit about human life. In the meantime we'll go on a wasting the greatest era of mankind to date and we'll keep on pretending that the free market economy is the best way to manage resources. So no, I don't particularly like it the way it is and I'm pretty damned sure I'm not alone in that.

[jonbuoy]

That's so true ...

And today on national radio a story about house prices in Auckland ... apparently the average house price for sales in Auckland last month was $650,000. That's more than half a million dolalrs for a place to sleep warm, cook and eat food, fuck and wash ...

So much for the Kiwi dream of owning your own home ...

Wow that's one hell of a bubble almost doubling from 2002.

[blue rider]