One of the top racers in the world

[suzuki21]

She is bound to be better now than when she was crashing over here, years of experience racing with other people's money has to help skill levels.

Um..................... no. She still destroys bikes. She has a screw loose and I wouldnt expect her to get any better.

[koba]

Um..................... no. She still destroys bikes. She has a screw loose and I wouldnt expect her to get any better.

I would expect her to get 'better', not good enough to foot it at the level she aims for but 'better' relative to being absolutely shit when she raced here for her 'top ten' or whatever finish out of something like 9 entrants for the NZ superbike champs.


Practice will always show some improvement, somewhere.
Maybe she's just getting better at destroying bikes.

[sidecar bob]

Um..................... no. She still destroys bikes. She has a screw loose and I wouldnt expect her to get any better.

Sounds like she has a few things loose then.

[roogazza]

I find it hard to believe she would be quicker than the likes of Hayden, Nick and Choppa.

I don't think anyone has said that, but looking at bike racing you could form an opinion she wasn't that far behind . However I would have liked to see her handle another class.

I would expect her to get 'better', not good enough to foot it at the level she aims for but 'better' relative to being absolutely shit when she raced here for her 'top ten' or whatever finish out of something like 9 entrants for the NZ superbike champs.

Exactly what I was talking about, come in tenth and think you've made it.
I don't know the woman, a few seem to though and don't give glowing opinions.
I am interested to see the posts if she happens to have a bit of luck in the Harley race.

[Robert Taylor]

um..................... No. She still destroys bikes. She has a screw loose and i wouldnt expect her to get any better.

indeed, and it wouldnt matter if she has got better. She also leaves a trail of bad debts and anyone who does that is not deserving of any help from anyone

[Edbear]

indeed, and it wouldnt matter if she has got better. She also leaves a trail of bad debts and anyone who does that is not deserving of any help from anyone

Sex sells...

[roogazza]

She is completely different.
He is hardly heading over there on nothing more than a belief. That is pretty condesending really.
Sam has spent quite a few years learning how to ride and then how to race, and to race hard, but safe.
He has no illusions about jumping on a Superbike and trying to race at a national level.
AND, he is doing it on his, his family's and some helpful supporters dimes, not wrecking havoc on some race teams budget.
True, one can only know the level when you get in amongst it, but at least Sam is going there with the track and bike skills to be able to have a good go.

Completely different.

I don't know the kid and am only going on what I've heard. What is it, a win in 250 Kawasaki 4T class in 2011 ?
He must have an illusions to go surely, I put it better, as a belief.
Good on him but I'd like to see results in say 600s first. I see lots of talent in Europe, he's up against it. But hey Stoners old man did it !

[sidecar bob]

indeed, and it wouldnt matter if she has got better. She also leaves a trail of bad debts and anyone who does that is not deserving of any help from anyone

Fuckin Amen to that!!!

[Mental Trousers]

I don't know the kid and am only going on what I've heard. What is it, a win in 250 Kawasaki 4T class in 2011 ?
He must have an illusions to go surely, I put it better, as a belief.
Good on him but I'd like to see results in say 600s first. I see lots of talent in Europe, he's up against it. But hey Stoners old man did it !

As with Sandra you've failed to check him out and don't appear to know much at all about either of them.

Exactly what I was talking about, come in tenth and think you've made it.
I don't know the woman, a few seem to though and don't give glowing opinions.
I am interested to see the posts if she happens to have a bit of luck in the Harley race.

Opinions of people who have been burnt by her and witnessed the fallout of her exploits are extremely unlikely to change. Only those who don't know anything about how she got to where ever she does will think she deserves recognition.

[sugilite:Me]

I see Sandra (one of the top racers in the World) managed to finish 21st out of 24 finishers in the Sportster 1200 race at Daytona. Best lap was 4.3 seconds slower than 1st places best lap.
http://www.vanceandhines.com/xr1200/

[Crasherfromwayback]

I see Sandra (one of the top racers in the World) managed to finish 21st out of 24 finishers in the Sportster 1200 race at Daytona. Best lap was 4.3 seconds slower than 1st places best lap.
http://www.vanceandhines.com/xr1200/

Racing Sportsters is fucking hard work mate! :-)

[Madness]

It's a bit gobby looking, innit?

[merv]

I see Sandra (one of the top racers in the World) managed to finish 21st out of 24 finishers in the Sportster 1200 race at Daytona. Best lap was 4.3 seconds slower than 1st places best lap.
http://www.vanceandhines.com/xr1200/

Showing as 20th on the AMA site http://www.amaproracing.com/rr/event...class_sort=all. Someone must have gotten excluded but I can't be arsed figuring out who.

Hey at least she finished on first attempt at a difficult track.

More impressive is the two chicks who made top ten in the 200, Elena Myers and Melissa Paris http://www.amaproracing.com/rr/event...class_sort=all

Even they were over 3 seconds a lap slower than the fastest riders, so its not an easy game eh. Ask any CRT rider in MotoGP and don't get crasher started on them again.

[steveyb]

Immensely successful British SuperBike competitors such as Sandra Stammova and Luke Mossey will make the trip across the Atlantic to compete on American asphalt for the first time in their careers. Stammova, a British SuperBike sensation, will be racing a Rossmeyer’s Harley-Davidson in the Vance & Hines Harley-Davidson Series at Daytona.

Just goes to show ya shouldn't believe anything you read eh?

[sugilite:Me]

Showing as 20th on the AMA site http://www.amaproracing.com/rr/event...class_sort=all.

Hey at least she finished on first attempt at a difficult track.

More impressive is the two chicks who made top ten in the 200, Elena Myers and Melissa Paris http://www.amaproracing.com/rr/event...class_sort=all

Even they were over 3 seconds a lap slower than the fastest riders, so its not an easy game eh.

I think the telling numbers are the 1st 11 riders fastest laps were all within 1/2 a second of each other. That shows a large number of riders had the ability to get the best out of these bikes. Sandra was on a good bike by all accounts. Being more than 4 seconds off the pace shows her true skills are in dubious (leeching) marketing techniques than that of a rider. I have immense respect for woman racers that take it to the guys, like Karel Pavich, Avalon Biddle. They earned their stripes with real skills and a hell of a lot of hard work.

As for the American girls being 3+ seconds of the pace, I've long wondered at the disparity between the top 5 riders and the rest in American national level racing. I guess it being such a large country, the costs are just too much for up and coming privateers to get a look in, so we just see the ones that have enough money to contest the series, as against the talented ones that would otherwise get a lot closer to the top 5.