You on the rag or what?Originally Posted by DrDarkMatter
Cause you sound like you are. Tanty much? Grow up.
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You on the rag or what?
Cause you sound like you are. Tanty much? Grow up.
Becoming fearless isn't the point. That's impossible. It's learning how to control your fear, and how to be free from it.
Hardcore Biker
I wont be spoken down to, ever...
Totally Kwakas!
What is wrong with me is that I run a tightly controlled ride for people who have little road experience. I am not a control freak, but time running this ride has taught me that it needs to be tight or riders will be hurt.
Years of dealing with riders who knowitall , has taught me to speak up before they cause harm.
Years of being a new rider and then a returning rider has taught me compassion for ignorant noobs.
Years of being a mama has taught me to ignore tantys, no matter what the age of the thrower.
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I think his point while probably abit harsh is that yes there are much more senior riders and yes they definitely have a whole load of experience most than us however it does not give them the right to tell the newbies to shut up just because they think they're better. They generally ARE better but abit of humility in letting the newbie learn goes a long way in cooperation. Not condoning newby knowitalls but it goes both ways. Newbies needa learn to keep their ego and new found skills in check and you oldies needa put your points across in a better format than fuck up I'm better than you....
Yes while I do agree that experience counts for alot...It doesn't mean its the right way either. Its the reasoning and logic that wins the point. Remember experience is both a blessing and a curse.
chill people!
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You're being too sensitive.
Becoming fearless isn't the point. That's impossible. It's learning how to control your fear, and how to be free from it.
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I kinda see where you're coming from but don't agree. More experienced riders get my respect and I do shut up and listen or ask questions and might mention stuff I've heard or experienced but would never start a thread as a dig at another L plate who, in their opinion, isn't as good as them. Everyone has different learning paces so maybe they are, but that's god damn rude imo. Support, not ridicule or rubbish!I think his point while probably abit harsh is that yes there are much more senior riders and yes they definitely have a whole load of experience most than us however it does not give them the right to tell the newbies to shut up just because they think they're better. They generally ARE better but abit of humility in letting the newbie learn goes a long way in cooperation. Not condoning newby knowitalls but it goes both ways. Newbies needa learn to keep their ego and new found skills in check and you oldies needa put your points across in a better format than fuck up I'm better than you....
Yes while I do agree that experience counts for alot...It doesn't mean its the right way either. Its the reasoning and logic that wins the point. Remember experience is both a blessing and a curse.
chill people!
Becoming fearless isn't the point. That's impossible. It's learning how to control your fear, and how to be free from it.
Hardcore Biker
agreed, I this is what I meant to say before I lost my temper.I think his point while probably abit harsh is that yes there are much more senior riders and yes they definitely have a whole load of experience most than us however it does not give them the right to tell the newbies to shut up just because they think they're better. They generally ARE better but abit of humility in letting the newbie learn goes a long way in cooperation. Not condoning newby knowitalls but it goes both ways. Newbies needa learn to keep their ego and new found skills in check and you oldies needa put your points across in a better format than fuck up I'm better than you....
Yes while I do agree that experience counts for alot...It doesn't mean its the right way either. Its the reasoning and logic that wins the point. Remember experience is both a blessing and a curse.
chill people!
Totally Kwakas!
For a bit of perspective, showed this thread to my workmate, she giggled. Thinks its funny as anything, so thanks for cheering her up, she has had a rough day.
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NO I am not, they got NO right to tell me to shut up, END OF STORY, I dont give a shit how much experience they got, you got no right.
Hardcore Biker
this is ridiculous all I wanted to do was ride and meet new people who share a common interest and you ego maniacs gota ruin it.
good riddance
Smarty pants... since ages ago
She just DID .. !!! And if you don't listen to the instructions you're given ... by riders with more experience in situations that you ever imagine ... YOU may be the topic of the next "Rider Down" thread.
Your attendance at any of these rides ... means your agreement to follow instructions given by the senior riders.
You may be lucky enough ... (and live long enough) ... to understand the possible result of NOT following those instructions. Those senior rider have seen that same "result" all too often.
Did she hit a nerve diddums ... oh dear. How sad. Never mind ...
Experience is something you lack. Try getting some before your next tantrum ... AND ... she can and will talk like that if she feels the need to. Your rider education (and safety) was their intention and considerations ... and for all other riders they believe might be at risk through YOUR actions as well ...
You say that ... as if they really give a fuck if you don't return ... Everybody else will be a lot safer ...
When life throws you a curve ... Lean into it ...
Highway Biker
yea we should listen but we shouldn't trust implicidly thats called been a sheep. Critical thinking helps sort the bullshit out.
drdarkmatter: think you needa chill out no? I understand your point of view. No one should order anyone around but I believe they are speaking from a point of view where the rider is throwing his weight around thinking he da bomb but actually he/she is just a lil naive shit and just endangering others....
Those kinda people deserve a whoop up the arse for their arrogance and other riders should be aware of their idiocy. They'll weed themselves out by natural selection anyways...Than we get to vote them for the darwin awards and lol at them.
Senior Grumpy Old Bastard
Ride your ride, dont let others set your pace...Hey all
Mods wasn't sure if this was ok to go here or New members speak so move if you need to.
Not trying to upset anyone with this thread just want to point out some info that should be commonsense but obviously isn't.
Lately ive been riding with a mix of riders from Learners on little bikes to Learners (my uncle) on bigger bikes as well as people who have been riding longer then I have been alive
Yes I have come off before both from my own stupidity and from other peoples
Yes I have had oh shit moments since I got back into riding but because I have been asking questions and working out what to do if something happens I have been ok (touch wood)
I don't like getting into bad situations and tbh if I do then Im not riding correctly in the first place
If anyone wants to comment go for it I am willing to admit when I am wrong
Everyone has different confort zones and different bikes
The main thing I always do on a new bike is work out how quick it can stop ie go to a quiet road and get upto 10-20km then try stop then increase the speed good
I also find out what each brake will do good
Small bikes you have to rev they have no power otherwise you need to be in higher revs so you dont bog down don't be afraid to take it towards redline if you have to ( I went over the wairapa with my uncle he was on a 750 ducati and well I was on redline in 5th alot I kept up)
WHY?? you are 'killing' your bike to keep up, the onus really is on the bigger bikes to run at a pace you can comfortably keep to.. if they want to blast off for a few K's? That's fine, but they should be watching in THEIR mirror's to make sure they dont lose you.
Lean into corners take correct lines and untill you hit your pegs (or the ground) you can go further (this has saved me before) Errrr no, not really, some bike the pegs are placed so high you are just about in SHITSTREET if you touch them down, knowing the limit of your machine is OK, far better to start learning to read camber, apex, vanishing point, line of sight through a bend, etc etc.. once you have mastered that, the amount of lean you use becomes 'instinctive' there are a lot of classic bends in the area I live that entice you to give it some, and they have adverse cambers.. you 'will get your arse bitten' if you dont ride according to that.
Don't hesitate if you decide to do something do it, if you hesitate and then go your probably going to get taken out NONONONO,, if in doubt? Chicken out, is a far better 'mantra' if you have a seconds thought BEFORE you start to manouver, DONT. Going for it, because you have started the overtake/corner/whatever is a recipe for disaster... you should ALWAYS ride with enough, lean, acceleration, room, braking distance, to take the 'opt out'.. and od course we ALL ride that way here in KB land
If you get scared don't lock the brakes that needs a heap of practice, instinct IS to grab a huge handful (panic brake) concerted practice should leave you with the 'motor skills memory' to apply hard braking at an 'eased off, initial 'frab'.. never had to put it to the test though!
DON"T PANIC <<< yup good plan!
umm will think of more latter
Thoughts comments?
If the road to hell is paved with good intentions; and a man is judged by his deeds and his actions, why say it's the thought that counts? -GrayWolf
Hardcore Biker
Ok Mr troll, time to go buy a life, I got more than 10 years riding big bikes in the states and Europe, so dont presume to tell me about safer, you are just jumping on the band wagon... Troll
no one was talking to you anyway, Troll
Highway Biker
As much as I respect you together with your fortune of years and years of riding experience....I do...honest.....Experience counts for shit if it isn't backed by logical reasoning. Plus the bad side of experience is that if you've been in said (assumed to be bad riding situation) so many times, makes you wonder whether you're actually learning from it as oppose to surviving out of sheer luck and parading your good fortune.
People have accidents everyday despite been careful. Its not just about your experience, sheer luck if you call it that sometimes comes to play regardless of level of experience.....
did you know there's a 1/2 million chance to die by getting stabbed by a knife facing upwards in a open dishwasher? Read this in a book I bought called 1000ways to die. thats freakin insane.
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