How to keep up on a small bike

[bosslady]

New riders are the last people who should be encouraged to search out a mystical 'Zone'.

They have plenty enough things to be concentrating on already.

I beg to differ. After a couple of wines I'm in the zone.

Oh wait, were talking about riding!

[FJRider]

So you have completely missed the point as well, the speed is not the goal, smooth is the goal, you are still on the road and still responsible for your own actions.

Any racer will agree that you have to be smooth to be fast no matter what kind of racing they do. So if you are working on being smooth you will tend to bring the speed up but without leaving your comfort zone, as soon as you push past your abilities you lose the flow and must slow down to regain it.

If speed is not the goal ... why do you compare it with a racer .. ???

On a racetrack ... fewer exceptions to the "Zone" theories exist.

No traffic coming the other way.
No camper vans on the wrong (or any other) side.
All the corner entry/exit speeds are known (as are all the braking points)
All the run-off areas are known.
Even the number of people on your "road" are pretty much known. (and of similar ability to yourself)

On the track ... the zone ends when the checkered flag is waved. When does it end on the open road ... when you are ready ... or inside a 50 km/hr zone .. ???

Or ... the first "Oh Shit" moment ... ???

[swtfa]

I beg to differ. After a couple of wines I'm in the zone.

Oh wait, were talking about riding!

Wine... riding...

Oh - we talking bikes!

[FJRider]

New riders are the last people who should be encouraged to search out a mystical 'Zone'.

They have plenty enough things to be concentrating on already.

Like checking their mirrors .. ???

[bosslady]

Wine... riding...

Oh - we talking bikes!

riding and wine often go hand in hand but that's another (r18) conversation

[FJRider]

I beg to differ. After a couple of wines I'm in the zone.

Oh wait, were talking about riding!

Over the years ... I have spent some time making an effort to reduce the glut in the world wine market Never while riding though. (I might have spilt some)

It was fun ... although unsuccessful ...

[bosslady]

Over the years ... I have spent some time making an effort to reduce the glut in the world wine market Never while riding though. (I might have spilt some)

It was fun ... although unsuccessful ...

you must be a shit rider, spill your wine whilst riding? pfft what a newbie

[Ocean1]

you must be a shit rider, spill your wine whilst riding? pfft what a newbie

Camelback.

Just gota crush the ice really small.

[FJRider]

you must be a shit rider, spill your wine whilst riding? pfft what a newbie

Less risk of spilling if you hold the glass with both hands ...



Oh ... we were still talking about motorcycling ... weren't we ...

[Mushu]

If speed is not the goal ... why do you compare it with a racer .. ???

On a racetrack ... fewer exceptions to the "Zone" theories exist.

No traffic coming the other way.
No camper vans on the wrong (or any other) side.
All the corner entry/exit speeds are known (as are all the braking points)
All the run-off areas are known.
Even the number of people on your "road" are pretty much known. (and of similar ability to yourself)

On the track ... the zone ends when the checkered flag is waved. When does it end on the open road ... when you are ready ... or inside a 50 km/hr zone .. ???

Or ... the first "Oh Shit" moment ... ???

I mention racing because of the 'smooth is fast' idea to illustrate that by becoming smoother you are actually getting better and your comfortable speed gets a little higher. As said, the attention doesn't disappear you still have to look for cars, road defects, wayward animals etc..

If you are doing the flow on the race track, what are you, the pace car? When you're on the track you can push, and use all of your brakes and all your revs (while riding the flow my bike almost never revs over 10000). Often those that do it say they never use the brakes if you can race without brakes and not get lapped you should be riding motoGP.

As I said in my earlier post, you are responsible for what you do on the road, most of us are quite comfortable cruising at 200 on a straight road, and you need to make the decision on what is an appropriate speed.

As far as a new rider doing the flow what's your definition of a new rider, how many times do you have to get on a bike to be considered "not new" how many hours saddle time, how many kays, does all of it need to be on the road, is trail riding worth anything, or track time.... I said newer, ie someone who a reasonable level of skill to be riding difficult roads.

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[Mom]

most of us are quite comfortable cruising at 200 on a straight road,

Pardon me? Please take me out of your generalisation of "MOST OF US" I can tell you for free there are LOTS of us out here that are NOT comfortable cruising at 200 anywhere.

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[Karl08]

Cruising at 200 seems like an oxymoron....bit like ending a thread on KB

[MSTRS:Me]

This is the thread...
The thread that never ends....
It just goes on...
And on and on ...
My friends...
This thread that never ends...


BTW - count me out of the 200 Cruising Club too. My speedo is in MPH...

And another thing. Someone mentioned 'reacting' in reference to flow or zone. Rubbish. If you are reacting on a motorcycle, you are nowhere near a competent rider in or out of any zone.

[yungatart]

most of us are quite comfortable cruising at 200 on a straight road,


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Most? Cruising? At 200 k? On the road?
You are a deluded fool if you think that.
That is an insane speed on a public road.

Most of the guys I knew who cruised at those speeds on the road are dead just now.

You hurt any of my friends and family, and I promise you, I will hunt you down and make whatever life you have left not worth living! Grow up and take it to the track...the world doesn't need anymore 'heroes' like you.

[Deano]

Holy bejeeeebus. Thank fuck for Thursday nights