Race bikes and rider aids (electronic)

[suzuki21]

Robert Taylor - There is one woman that has fucked more people over than Sandra "star titties" Stammova, and her name was.................... HELEN CLARK.

[koba]

There is no doubt that as a champion of hard work and enterprise Maggie would totally embrace the technologies this thread is about. And as one who doesnt suffer fools she would deride those who oppose progress. Its a real pity she cannot be cloned.

You really want her to have your babies dont you

Clones!
Did you not hear the man?
Babies are awfully working class.

[neil_cb125t]

After riding the 2010 S1000 std on a track, on slicks, it was very interesting to feel how the traction control effected the bike. With a rooted rear tire the back end just started stepping out so the TC would cut in, bring the bike into line and then give you power again, the waggle as you exit the corner motion was fun as shit.... but the tire did not like it and I do not think it helped me time wise it simply meant I could be a retard with the power with very little back-lash. Electronic suspenders thou...... man I see huge benifits, if only someone would pay for them for me...I don't even have cartridges in my forks!

[Mental Trousers]

.... if only someone would pay for them for me...I don't even have cartridges in my forks!

Farken Nel. Get some decent suspension in that thing and you'll own the F3 record at Taupo easy.

[eelracing]

They are here to stay - but do they spoil the fun and make it less of a specatacle ?, Or do they simply refine going "fast" even further ?.

Is it here to stay?Who say's?...the buying public?blindly led by the nose at the best of times...or the factories.

Who benefits?The buying public?...no they will still wrap themselves round road signage but now at a greater rate of knots and still not know why.
Of course it benefits racers as it makes the less skilled more competitive,but eventually every fucker will be following each other,same lines,same brake points,same acceleration,same ol' samo.Because with electronics they only work one way and you have to ride the bike that way.

Had a great laugh at an article about Bradley Smith saying how easy his M1 is to ride compared to his moto2 bike (something fucked-up in itself just quietly)but all was made clear when he mentioned his team technician was out on the track earlier for four hours with a GPS logger calibrating the traction control.
Get rid of them and bring back raw as bikes and ultimately different riding styles,that'll sort the thoroughbreds from the donkeys.

MotoGP want's to decrease costs and increase grids,we all know electronics is the problem.So unless they are provided free of charge to all teams they are currently the ultimate racing buzzkill

[budda]

She is a tory, otherwise she wouldnt be allowed to live under the same roof.

now THAT I could believe !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[wharfy]

MotoGP want's to decrease costs and increase grids,we all know electronics is the problem.So unless they are provided free of charge to all teams they are currently the ultimate racing buzzkill

How do we know electronics is the problem ???

[JayRacer37]

Of course it benefits racers as it makes the less skilled more competitive,but eventually every fucker will be following each other,same lines,same brake points,same acceleration,same ol' samo.Because with electronics they only work one way and you have to ride the bike that way.

Sounds pretty much how it is now...

[Dave-]

I love them!

But I am a bright eye'd and busy tailed computer engineering student, so that's what I geek out on.

NASCAR is quite cool though, push rods, carbs, no aids, very interesting sport.

[Mental Trousers]

Interestingly, in Race 1 at the Hampton Downs round of the Nationals today the guys with the fewest electronic aids did the best in very tricky conditions. Nick Cole won with Hayden Fitzgerald close behind. All those with the most developed electronics finished mid pack.

Going on that result you'd think the electronics were more of a hinderance.

[scrivy]

As a spectator, I say get rid of them.
I mean, who cares if the winner breaks the lap record if the racing was processional, or he was way ahead of everyone else.

How many care about F1 cars now?? Its super quick, but really, how many overtaking opportunities are there?

Too many aides.

[Biggles08]

They are here to stay - but do they spoil the fun and make it less of a specatacle ?, Or do they simply refine going "fast" even further ?. Thats the question. Ime writing an article on the matter, - what are your thoughts ?

Didn't help Nick C out of turn 4 today...

[caspernz]

MotoGP want's to decrease costs and increase grids,we all know electronics is the problem.So unless they are provided free of charge to all teams they are currently the ultimate racing buzzkill

Regardless of my personal opinion that electronics will only increase on everyday bikes, the cost factor in racing is the real issue.

Look at how ABS/EBS/TC/ESP has crept into cars over the years, road bikes are lagging behind. That said, would you want a Busa or a ZX14 if you were buying brand new today? I'd have the Busa personally...

[quickbuck]

How many care about F1 cars now?? Its super quick, but really, how many overtaking opportunities are there?

Too many aides.

You obviously didn't watch the race then!
There was more overtaking at Melbourne than in the Sidecar Races today......

[CHOPPA]

Interestingly, in Race 1 at the Hampton Downs round of the Nationals today the guys with the fewest electronic aids did the best in very tricky conditions. Nick Cole won with Hayden Fitzgerald close behind. All those with the most developed electronics finished mid pack.

Going on that result you'd think the electronics were more of a hinderance.

Mine was turned off cause its shit in the wet and also my front tyre hadn't been calibrated. Hayden, robbie, Craig, Moir all run the same system and the Kawasaki would be the pick of the bunch for electronics and he won.

Electronics make f/a difference, we are the same guys at the front as we were before electronics.

Its ignorant to think electronics make someone a better rider.