Race bikes and rider aids (electronic)

[Robert Taylor]

I dunno Robert, to me the America's cup is a very bad example: most competitors have been priced out of the game. It's new and exciting (compared to the old sluggers) at the moment but how long are people going to watch just 2 or 3 boats? The Kiwi boat is sponsored by us, the tax payer: it doesn't look like we will but if we lose that won't happen again. The Italians wouldn't go through it again, so who does that leave? There's virtually no TV coverage so the whole show is completely unsustainable when the billionaires get bored.

Parallels to MotoGP much? Suzuki and Kawasaki have been priced out of the market and Ducati won't be far behind if they have another disastrous season next year and get smoked by the customer Honda and Yamaha arrangements. The tech trickling down has to take a back seat to the overall health of the series.

Yes, some of what you say is plausible but there should always be formulae where engineering development is given a relatively free hand. To those of us with an engineering bent watching Formula 1 and Americas cup is much more than about the sheer racing spectacle itself. The technology behind it is fascinating. Right below such formulae there are the more cost controlled classes that people in numbers can subscribe to.

Now when we win the Americas cup lets think outside of the square, it doesn't have to go to Auckland.........

[mossy1200]

Yes, some of what you say is plausible but there should always be formulae where engineering development is given a relatively free hand. To those of us with an engineering bent watching Formula 1 and Americas cup is much more than about the sheer racing spectacle itself. The technology behind it is fascinating. Right below such formulae there are the more cost controlled classes that people in numbers can subscribe to.

Now when we win the Americas cup lets think outside of the square, it doesn't have to go to Auckland.........

Taupo? Queenstown? Trailer sailor series would be the shizz.

Robert can you message me steering damper cost zx14r (brocks mount, ohlins damper or if ohlins has mount).

[Robert Taylor]

Taupo? Queenstown? Trailer sailor series would be the shizz.

Robert can you message me steering damper cost zx14r (brocks mount, ohlins damper or if ohlins has mount).

Dunedin?

Regretably Ohlins do not do a steering damper kit for the ZX14, sorry.

[Mental Trousers]

Sorry about that but I don't agree for one second! We developed something last year in NZ ''production racing'' ( which is largely what it is here, production based ) and passed the info on to the engineers at the Ohlins factory. It is now being used in a number of Moto 2 and second tier ( CRT ) MotoGP bikes. As Ohlins have the engineering capacity and some pretty sophisticated equipment it will be refined and developed further. From that same idea we have applied to a couple of roadbikes more recently, with excellent results.

Within the rules you keep developing, that's the nature of engineering. If there is a spin off for the average man in the street then that's a bonus

There isn't anywhere else to develop stuff in this country is the problem. It's all production based except for the 125GP/Moto3 type bikes so we don't have much choice.

Besides, you fiddling with existing equipment and refining things with new tweaks or different components isn't developing new gear.

Yes, some of what you say is plausible but there should always be formulae where engineering development is given a relatively free hand. To those of us with an engineering bent watching Formula 1 and Americas cup is much more than about the sheer racing spectacle itself. The technology behind it is fascinating. Right below such formulae there are the more cost controlled classes that people in numbers can subscribe to.

Now when we win the Americas cup lets think outside of the square, it doesn't have to go to Auckland.........

I've always liked the America's Cup once they got on the water. Off the water it's bullshit, but on the water it's all technology, sailing skill and tactics, like it should be.

[pritch]

Apropos of nothing in particular, I note that both Rossi and Marquez have stated this weekend that they would like less electronics in MotoGP.

[Dave-]

There isn't anywhere else to develop stuff in this country is the problem. It's all production based except for the 125GP/Moto3 type bikes so we don't have much choice.

Besides, you fiddling with existing equipment and refining things with new tweaks or different components isn't developing new gear.

What RT achieved is called incremental innovation. It even boarders on platform innovation. RT never said he developed any new equipment.

Pissing and moaning about the lack of development in this country sure as shit isn't developing any new gear either.

[Mental Trousers]

The technology is the reason prototype classes exist, but I don't think production based racing is the place to develop new technology.

Sorry about that but I don't agree for one second!

What RT achieved is called incremental innovation. It even boarders on platform innovation. RT never said he developed any new equipment.

Seems you misread things.

[Robert Taylor]

What we developed wasn't new, it was taken from the auto racing side and used exclusively in that code for a slightly different reason. We saw the potential for bike racing but also very much so for on road use. The factory concur that it has merit, but like so many things it will be an accountants decision whether it makes it to production or not.

WSBK race 1 at Istanbul ( just run ) Race winner Eugene Laverty praised the electronics on the Aprliia..............

[JayRacer37]

We developed something last year in NZ ''production racing'' ( which is largely what it is here, production based ) and passed the info on to the engineers at the Ohlins factory. It is now being used in a number of Moto 2 and second tier ( CRT ) MotoGP bikes. As Ohlins have the engineering capacity and some pretty sophisticated equipment it will be refined and developed further. From that same idea we have applied to a couple of roadbikes more recently, with excellent results.

What was it?

Now when we win the Americas cup lets think outside of the square, it doesn't have to go to Auckland.........

Taupo? Queenstown? Trailer sailor series would be the shizz.

Yes, Trailer boats on lake Hamilton

[Robert Taylor]

What was it?

Call me at some stage Jay and I will happily elaborate because I know you are a totally sincere person. Here in NZ there is a mentally unstable confidence trickster ( who also conned your employers ) who distributes for a company that got its start on industrial espionage they did on my preferred suspension supplier. These collective thieves don't need any more help .