Save yaself some $ on engine oil

[Crasherfromwayback]

Then there is the 'how to run in your new bike' site that proclaims that you must thrash the living shit out of it from day one ......... here you go:

http://www.mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm

I've been telling my customers that for years. Because I've been in the industry for so long, most of my bikes have been new. I've given them all the same run in procedure. I've beaten the living fuck out of them from day one, and anyone that's ridden any of my bikes always say what jets they are and what have I done to it. The answers always the same.

[leathel]

I read this article the other day re oils....some interesting reading


http://www.post610.org/truth_about_motorcycle_oils.htm

[Fergus]

Some actual research in the area:

http://www.ducatimeccanica.com/oil.html

[leathel]

Some actual research in the area:

http://www.ducatimeccanica.com/oil.html

Another good article with good info..... again Automotive oils look to do the job

[Richard Mc F]

How often did you change the oil in yr Ducati?

3000km the filtration systen is a simple by pass, my thoughts were high detergent levels to keep contaminants in suspension and regular change outs.

The fact I was running a heavy equipment repair shop with unlimited Delo 400 was nothing to do with it

[Voltaire]

Its been discussed at length on some classic BMW Norton and Ducati forums I frequent .

These are low reving motors but they are air cooled and run hotter, opinion seems divided on being a cheapskate and beating the system and taking a risk with the life blood of

your expensive to repair motorcycle.

My concern these days is the lack of ZDDP in car oil due to the increase of roller cam followers.

I have 20 litres of diesel oil in my garage unopened from a CAT generator if anyone wants to buy it...... Shell Rumuella or summit like that.

[Hoon]

I buy my oil in bulk from Segedins (20L pails) for $50 or something and use it in all the family cars and motorcycles. Buying motorcycle or any 4-5L container of oil is a rip off.

[imdying]

Shell Rumuella or summit like that.

Shell Rotella? The SV650 guys have been raving about that shite for years, they absolutely love it, FWIW.

[Motu]

Rimula, Rotella is what the US gets, and is JASO-MA rated. Rimula is pretty close to the same, but not quite. I'd put it in anything but an Airhead.

[AllanB]

USA Hornet (919) forums love the Shell Rotella T6 full synthetic. Branded as Shell Helix Ultra here for the cars.

Different oil for motorcycles in their full synth range .......... just saying ......

[Woodman]

I buy my oil in bulk from Segedins (20L pails) for $50 or something and use it in all the family cars and motorcycles. Buying motorcycle or any 4-5L container of oil is a rip off.

Its not a rip off. A ripoff is when you are mislead, but every shop I have been into that sells oil has the prices marked and it is the individuals choice whether to buy it or not. Oil is always cheaper the larger quantity you buy.

[Paul in NZ]

I've always been a fan of Penrite oil... I used to use HPR30 in both bikes but on advice of Penrite themselves switched to the diesel or LPG version when they introduced friction modifiers that upset the wet clutch in the Triumph.

I've not noticed any issues and compared to a modern design its getting used very hard.

[Voltaire]

Rimula, Rotella is what the US gets, and is JASO-MA rated. Rimula is pretty close to the same, but not quite. I'd put it in anything but an Airhead.

Why not...... your just saying that coz I have 20 litres being used as a seat.

[brp]

Cam chain driven I'm guessing you're actually meaning. Which is different to gear driven.

Yeah know its different was highlighting my terrano has no cam chain but is gear driven

Yep Rotella the big one used in the states in bikes

On the XR oil changes meant to be every 1000 km if competition riding - stretch it to 1500 km - cost me both arms and legs putting
unnecessary synthetic in ....

Few years back on a Wednesday night ride we had an oil technician join us, this "cat" was so up with the play that mobil flies him
backwards and forwards from Russia where he is a consultant to a Russian oil refinery. His words were on oil "It does not matter if you run a cheap oil or an expensive one - the main thing is to change it often - its the carbon collected in the oil that causes the wear - you have heard of diamond carbon cutting tools ?"

Semi synthetics are the biggest scam off all - contain very little or no esters


Here's "The Oil" on it all http://www.nightrider.com/biketech/oiltest1.htm

[Motu]

Why not...... your just saying that coz I have 20 litres being used as a seat.

Just because of the 20-50 thing, I'm pretty that they will work perfectly fine on 15-40 (of course I have used 15-40 in mine before and it's still running), but who am I to go against all the airhead Guru's.