All road users

[caseye]

Jeez you OK there Akz?
Now I'm sorry all of you Akzle lovers out there, but if you read it this way it'd be 100% right.

If you are on a rural/ main road ( not in town) and you wish to turn right.
You were ( can't say for sure it's still this way) supposed to indicate your intention to pull to the left.
Pull over on the left side/shoulder of the road.
Wait till the road was clear in both directions, indicate your intention to turn right and execute the turn.
Naturally, if there was no traffic a simple indicate ( who the hell is there to see it, BUTT) a right hand turn, move to the centre of the road, execute a right hand turn, no problem.
Wheres that old scumdog when ya need him?
Come on Akzle explain what kicked this one off.

[Berries]

I think you will find that the Traffic Regs were written to say that it was specifically not an offence to pull left before turning right, which has been carried over in to 2.5(3) of the Road User Rule which states -

A driver is not in breach of subclause (2) if the driver proves that, in the interests of safety, the driver moved as far as practicable to the left of the roadway on which the driver was travelling and slowed or stopped the vehicle in advance of the point where he or she intended to turn right until the roadway was clear of traffic turning right from the centre of the road and it was safe to turn.

Subclause 2 is the one that says you are supposed to move to the right which is the recommended practice. I can't believe that they used to promote what is being suggested here? It does sound very quaint though, is it based on some old canal boat legislation or something?

[Akzle]

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Sorry - only members of our society can be PM ...

sez who

(You should be on a motorbike anyway you idiot so what's the problem? Or did you crash it on your driveway?)

you have me confused with our africunt friend.

Come on Akzle explain what kicked this one off.

i've seen this manouvre 6 times in the last week, shockingly, twice that wasn't in auckland. and including a two storey bus. and this is on roads that have bays to the left of an intersection to facilitate just such a maneuver. when there's a queue of traffic following, and the guy in front pulls halfway left (as if to undertake) then decides he can't and so stops.... just fucks shit up, and is so easily avoidable if people drive would just drive properly.

[Berries]

and this is on roads that have bays to the left of an intersection to facilitate just such a maneuver.

Are you sure those bays aren't to facilitate the exact opposite?

[Swoop]

Naturally, if there was no traffic a simple indicate ( who the hell is there to see it, BUTT)

This is another problem with kiwi drivers. You indicate to alert the vehicle that has not been seen.
With the piss-poor driving standards of NZ drivers, this ethic really needs to be reinforced.

[FJRider]

and is so easily avoidable if people drive would just drive properly.

We would all be happier if everybody drove as per our society's legislation dictates ....

If it was convenient for them of course though ...

[SMOKEU]

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At least by indicating, they are giving you useful information about their intentions.

That's not much help when the majority of drivers are incapable of using their indicators in accordance with the laws.

[Akzle]

Are you sure those bays aren't to facilitate the exact opposite?

then why isn't there a flush median, and the lane painted into the bay, hmmmmm smartarse?

We would all be happier if everybody drove as per our society's legislation dictates ....

no. no i don't thinkso.
anyone who slows me down below 120 for any reason should be shot. using "it's the rules" as an excuse is just for pussies. and i don't believe courtesy is legislated
but if it needs to be, your society has bigger problems.

[imdying]

[COLOR="#139922"]anyone who slows me down below 120 for any reason should be shot.

Nah bro, I'm pretty sure it's 55mph and under that it blows up...

[pete376403]

Page A2 of Sunday Star-Times had a big feature about the "Killer trap at the roadside" ie gravel. People who have read that are even less likely to pull to the left ( "we're all going to die!")

Quote " The AAs ...Mike Noon, said many people didn't know how to drive on gravel".
Would have been more accurate if he just said many people didn't know how to drive, and left it at that.

[FJRider]

then why isn't there a flush median, and the lane painted into the bay, hmmmmm smartarse?

Because of the number of dickheads that believe you aren't allowed to drive over those painted flush median strips ... and issues resulting from that ... some councils prefer to save the cost of that painting .. and let common sense apply. Sadly ... common sense is not as common as we ALL might wish.

no. no i don't thinkso.
anyone who slows me down below 120 for any reason should be shot. using "it's the rules" as an excuse is just for pussies. and i don't believe courtesy is legislated
but if it needs to be, your society has bigger problems.

If you were an accepted member of our society ... we might actually give a fuck about YOUR issue.

You're not (by your own admission) ... and so we don't.

But a big THANK YOU for the laughs you provided by telling us about it. Please continue to do so ...

[FJRider]

That's not much help when the majority of drivers are incapable of using their indicators.

There ... fixed it for you ...

[Akzle]

Page A2 of Sunday Star-Times had a big feature about the "Killer trap at the roadside" ie gravel. People who have read that are even less likely to pull to the left ( "we're all going to die!")

Quote " The AAs ...Mike Noon, said many people didn't know how to drive on gravel".
Would have been more accurate if he just said many people didn't know how to drive, and left it at that.

had a good fucken laugh at that.

this is why all license test should be done on gravel. in a rear wheel drive. manual. and if you can't hold 10% of the speed limit, you fail. come back in 10 years and try again.

Because of the number of dickheads that believe you aren't allowed to drive over those painted flush median strips ... and issues resulting from that ...

they exist? haven't met em yet...paint, roadsigns, traffic lights, cops... they're all just polite suggestions, to be ignored if you don't feel like it.

If you were an accepted member of our society ... we might actually give a fuck about YOUR issue.

You're not (by your own admission) ... and so we don't.

But a big THANK YOU for the laughs you provided by telling us about it. Please continue to do so ...

oh i will.
but it's another item on my "why i don't want to be part of their society" list. of course, i have to keep a list, or else i might forget just how fucked up your shit is.
this isn't my issue. this is your society's issue, i don't see it getting better. i might piss and moan at some roading cunts to see if i can't get an ad campaign going. i know this whole "keep left" thing is new, and really really difficult to understand, but i think it's high time,


...so i'm going to go and smoke drugs.

[Zedder]

Page A2 of Sunday Star-Times had a big feature about the "Killer trap at the roadside" ie gravel. People who have read that are even less likely to pull to the left ( "we're all going to die!")

Quote " The AAs ...Mike Noon, said many people didn't know how to drive on gravel".
Would have been more accurate if he just said many people didn't know how to drive, and left it at that.

Yeah, I read the stuff version of that. All the usual finger pointing and calling for median barriers etc.

However, I have read articles on skid training and defensive driving etc where they reckon the problem is skills are over emphasized and behaviour, attitudes, risk assessment and hazard perception aren't being taught enough.

[Banditbandit]

...so i'm going to go and smoke drugs.

What a waste ...