Tele-marketers

[willytheekid]

That may be true for scammers, tele marketers in NZ go through the phone book (usually physical copies) alphabetically.

Very true!...and its is actually illegal! (NZ telecommunications act CLEARLY states that no individual or company/corp can call random numbers for the purpose of sales or marketing etc etc)

My two ways of handling these pricks!

1- I give the phone to my 3yr old son Ryder...he loves talking to them!

OR

2- I ask them "how did you get this confidential/unlisted number?...
When they advise me that they "just call random numbers" etc, I ask for the manager and advise them that I will be reporting this call to the telecom call investigations team* (remember that term!) as they have just breached the telecommunications act of NZ!...but thanks for the call...you can expect one back tommorow!

Strangely...I dont seem to get many calls from these maggots anymore

[Mike.Gayner]

Very true!...and its is actually illegal! (NZ telecommunications act CLEARLY states that no individual or company/corp can call random numbers for the purpose of sales or marketing etc etc)

Really? Show me which part of the Act prohibits this:
http://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/p...DLM124961.html

[willytheekid]

Really? Show me which part of the Act prohibits this:
http://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/p...DLM124961.html

Jesus, thats a read eh lol
it comes under section 112
http://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/p...DLM127408.html
This is whats enforced!

And the marketing Association has there own "guild lines" concerning tele marketing
http://www.lawcom.govt.nz/sites/defa...0Marketing.pdf

-Hence we have a division call "call investigations"...whos primary job is to ensure that malicious calls and such are investigated..and there time is also taken up with contacting such marketing agencys to ensure that they are adhereing to the Code of Practice for Telemarketing...and NOT calling people who are on the DNC (Don NOT call) registers list, and are upholding the marketing associations guild lines(who also get us to investigate certain tele marketing groups that are flagged to them...and they DO enforce this, in referance to the telecomunicatins act under Misuse of a telephone device if found to be in breach.


And if you want your name added to the DNC list-

"3(g) Removal of name/s from telephoning lists: If requested to do so, telemarketers
must flag the name of any person ”Do not call” on their telephoning list and on lists that are
offered to other organisations. As far as practicable, such persons should be informed of the
existence of the Marketing Association’s DNC Register, and given the opportunity to have
their name listed on that Register. In such cases, the telemarketer should direct the person
to the Marketing Association’s website – www.marketing.org.nz – where they will find a link
to the DNC service"

...that suffice?

[Big Dog]

I tell'em I charge for my time and if they would give an address where I can forward my invoice I keep talking to them - they generally hang up pretty feckin quick !
;-)

I have done that one. Especially effective if you lead off with "I'm going to need a payment authorisation or purchase number before we continue. Here at (insert business name, real or fake) we like to ensure that each customer gets fair value for their call, our rates are" usually they hang up about here with no further comment.

If I get recidivist callers I do the whole misuse of electronic communications act (spam act) speech.



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[Big Dog]

Jesus, thats a read eh lol
it comes under section 112
http://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/p...DLM127408.html
This is whats enforced!

And the marketing Association has there own "guild lines" concerning tele marketing
http://www.lawcom.govt.nz/sites/defa...0Marketing.pdf

-Hence we have a division call "call investigations"...whos primary job is to ensure that malicious calls and such are investigated..and there time is also taken up with contacting such marketing agencys to ensure that they are adhereing to the Code of Practice for Telemarketing...and NOT calling people who are on the DNC (Don NOT call) registers list, and are upholding the marketing associations guild lines(who also get us to investigate certain tele marketing groups that are flagged to them...and they DO enforce this, in referance to the telecomunicatins act under Misuse of a telephone device if found to be in breach.


And if you want your name added to the DNC list-

"3(g) Removal of name/s from telephoning lists: If requested to do so, telemarketers
must flag the name of any person ”Do not call” on their telephoning list and on lists that are
offered to other organisations. As far as practicable, such persons should be informed of the
existence of the Marketing Association’s DNC Register, and given the opportunity to have
their name listed on that Register. In such cases, the telemarketer should direct the person
to the Marketing Association’s website – www.marketing.org.nz – where they will find a link
to the DNC service"

...that suffice?

What he said, keep in mind most of them hang up before you get to the part of the act in question.


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[haydes55]

Very true!...and its is actually illegal! (NZ telecommunications act CLEARLY states that no individual or company/corp can call random numbers for the purpose of sales or marketing etc etc)



My two ways of handling these pricks!



1- I give the phone to my 3yr old son Ryder...he loves talking to them!



OR



2- I ask them "how did you get this confidential/unlisted number?...

When they advise me that they "just call random numbers" etc, I ask for the manager and advise them that I will be reporting this call to the telecom call investigations team* (remember that term!) as they have just breached the telecommunications act of NZ!...but thanks for the call...you can expect one back tommorow!



Strangely...I dont seem to get many calls from these maggots anymore

I've been talking to the telemarketers at work. So here is what I know.

Telecom sell your contact details to companies to call you. If you wish to not allow telecom to sell your contact details, get added to the DNC list as stated above. Telemarketers still use phonebook's, if they can't reach you on the number supplied by telecom.

"But I'm on the do not call list! Why have you called me?". Companies don't have to buy contact details. If a company is given your contact details from a third party. A lot of companies now ask for referrals from existing customers, that way they get new details without having to pay for them. (to give you an idea, I get paid $1 for every referral I bring back to the office).

Also, unless previously agreed with by the customer, no company can ring you after 8pm (not sure about what time in the morning they can start calling, our team don't start work until 11am anyway).

If you get a telemarketer call you after 8pm, or if you are on the DNC, ask who referred your details, if it wasn't a referral, lodge a complaint.

[R650R]

2- I ask them "how did you get this confidential/unlisted number?...
When they advise me that they "just call random numbers" etc, I ask for the manager and advise them that I will be reporting this call to the telecom call investigations team* (remember that term!) as they have just breached the telecommunications act of NZ!...but thanks for the call...you can expect one back tommorow!

Strangely...I dont seem to get many calls from these maggots anymore

I do a Tom Mabe take on that.

"You have just made an unauthorized call to a secure USA military phone line. Please identify yourself in the next 3 seconds with full name DOB and address. Failure to comply will initiate dispatch of a rendition team to your location."

I usually just hang up on anyone that even starts to sound like a telemarketer...

[Mom]

Yesterday I had a call from a foreign sounding female asking to talk to a bloke, we don't have any guests by that name and no one by that name works here, She apologised for bothering me.

An hour or so later the same thing. Asked her where she was calling from. Singapore. From a marketing company. I told her to stop ringing and take the motel number off the database.

Another hour or so later, same thing. I was still polite, but told her not to ring me again, as this was the 3rd call asking for the same bloke today. Warned her that if she rang me again I would simply start a string of swear words until she got the message. Did not get another call, wonder if they will ring today?

[Hobbyhorse]

Mom, I am really surprised that you know any swear words ..... now were it Maha, that would be different.

[Mom]

Mom, I am really surprised that you know any swear words ..... now were it Maha, that would be different.

I say things like gosh and golly

I got 2 more calls yesterday, honestly drives me crazy. I have had a re-read of this thread and I will adopt a few coping strategies today

[Edbear]

What we need is the phone equivalent of, "Add sender to blocked sender's list. "

[schrodingers cat]

When I hear the obvious delay (of an overseas call centre) I hang up before they get a word out.
Life's to short to put any more energy into worrying about them.

[caspernz]

Meh, usually I just say no thanks and hang up. Anyone who calls back will be put thru the "what are you wearing today sweetie" routine. If it's a bloke and he finds out I was in the navy and like to relive the good old days...the wife just cracks up and funnily enough those conversations end up rather brief

[mstriumph]

...............
I find that either "not interested" or "fuck off" depending on the caller works for me.

would have done that gladly with the Clive Palmer 'vote for us in the WA senate' phone call yesterday

but he thwarted me there ... it was a bloody RECORDED MESSAGE he was sending me

how can they do this? my phone is unlisted and also on the 'don't call' schedule

bastards! All I could do was slam the phone down, but it wasn't nearly as satisfying as sharing my thoughts with them would have been

[The Reibz]

EDIT: Gah to many beers last night