Dobbed in weed-growing parents

[ducatilover]

Hmmmm, grow slower with little to no operating costs or grow quicker with much higher operating costs... lemme see if my giveashitometer is in the mood for giving a shit. Nope. It's pretty ok with that

What if you're a supplier though?

[imdying]

Fucked if I care, I have a garage full of two strokes... any CO2 a closet of weed produces is minor in comparison.

[scissorhands]

whaleoil should change its name to chicken shit
what a unbalanced sensational piece of poor journalism
remind me never to read his crap

[ducatilover]

whaleoil should change its name to chicken shit
what a unbalanced sensational piece of poor journalism
remind me never to read his crap

Will you put up some reasoning? Debates are what KB is about, seeing as none of you knobs talk about bikes.

[scissorhands]

relativity my dear watson
I really cant be bothered arguing total crap like that chickenshit article


thanks

[Banditbandit]

Will you put up some reasoning? Debates are what KB is about, seeing as none of you knobs talk about bikes.

1) Everything that is stated or said is based on a subjective view - an ideological position. (See Zizej, van Dyk, and others)
2) Good journalism seeks to limit that subjectivity (it always fails)
3) Whale Oil does not even try to limit objectivity. It has an undeclared but obvious rightwing bias
4) That means its stuff is not good journalism, but are heavily biased piece of propoganda.
5) Therefore, it is crap

(And yes, journalism with a leftwing bias is just as crappy)

[mashman]

What if you're a supplier though?

Then the clients will have to wait... or at least learn to make their stash last a little longer... or grow more... or encourage more growers... or encourage their neighbours to grow too... or start planting out the roadsides and roundabouts.

[ducatilover]

relativity my dear watson
I really cant be bothered arguing total crap like that chickenshit article


thanks

You're no fun any more.

1) Everything that is stated or said is based on a subjective view - an ideological position. (See Zizej, van Dyk, and others)
2) Good journalism seeks to limit that subjectivity (it always fails)
3) Whale Oil does not even try to limit objectivity. It has an undeclared but obvious rightwing bias
4) That means its stuff is not good journalism, but are heavily biased piece of propoganda.
5) Therefore, it is crap

(And yes, journalism with a leftwing bias is just as crappy)

Did you read the one Bogan posted?
Propoganda etc, it's the media, so what does one expect?

Just saying, it raises an interesting subject.

Then the clients will have to wait... or at least learn to make their stash last a little longer... or grow more... or encourage more growers... or encourage their neighbours to grow too... or start planting out the roadsides and roundabouts.

Oh c'mon, that encourages moderation and/or responsibility, which we will not tolerate.

And supply and demand triumphs over any good/bad arguments, because profiteering rules. So, it probably doesn't even matter that indoor growing set ups are electricity hungry.

I'd like to see some reasoned approaches to the subject. Are there better ways of sustaining indoor growth without such heavy electrical use (this would benefit every one growing and buying, maximising profits and lowering costs, not an anti-growing dig)

[scissorhands]

You're no fun any more.

I'd like to see some reasoned approaches to the subject. Are there better ways of sustaining indoor growth without such heavy electrical use ...

The problem as always is prohibition. Take away prohibition and viola, everyone is growing outdoors

Scenario 1.

Dope smoker/grower, no car, no license, no overseas travel[conviction], rides his BMX down the skatepark, doesnt wash himself or cloths much, no commuting as is unemployed, possibly vegetarian, no hobbies just weed growing and air guitar playing, etc etc....

Scenario 2.

Upwardly mobile businessman, Audi upgraded every other year, overseas travel, long commutes from hobby farm to city, air conditioned offices, underfloor heating at home, maintenance costs on the batch or boat, business functions in Queenstown, many new toys and gadgets, new phone every year etc etc.....

Overseas travel alone pushes scenario2 well well well beyond scenario1 in carbon use and CO2 and environmental damage

Its a no brainer.

next chickenshit will be saying cannabis causes Polynesians to rape white wimen

[mashman]

Oh c'mon, that encourages moderation and/or responsibility, which we will not tolerate.

And supply and demand triumphs over any good/bad arguments, because profiteering rules. So, it probably doesn't even matter that indoor growing set ups are electricity hungry.

I'd like to see some reasoned approaches to the subject. Are there better ways of sustaining indoor growth without such heavy electrical use (this would benefit every one growing and buying, maximising profits and lowering costs, not an anti-growing dig)

Sorry, is that what I pos... fuck, I did didn't I. I do apologise, I feel dirty, almost as though I've been assimilated.

Very true.

Grow lamps. Not those big power Power POWER sodium bulbs, but the LED's that have low draw v high output and can run for 18 hours (all 130 of them) off a motorcycle battery. Bummer is though, them LED's are feckin expensive. I believe it's to do with light wavelengths more than just light and the right mix of LED's seems to do the trick according the the interwebz. Wish I had had a bit more money to give them a whirl.

next chickenshit will be saying cannabis causes Polynesians to rape white wimen

What's do they take to get the urge to rape white men?

[Madness]

Scenario 1.

Dope smoker/grower, no car, no license, no overseas travel[conviction], rides his BMX down the skatepark, doesnt wash himself or cloths much, no commuting as is unemployed, possibly vegetarian, no hobbies just weed growing and air guitar playing, etc etc....

Scenario 2.

Self-important has-been sidecar racer, drives an old shitbox, probably a Toyota, travels to all the big meets, makes the short commute to the workshop each day hardly gets the engine warm, tows the chair, spares & tools, drinks cheap piss and relies on a generator to keep 'em cold, sidecar leaks oil like a sieve, blows blue smoke, needs daily oil top-ups, etc etc.....

Driving an old Toyota alone pushes scenario2 well well well beyond scenario1 in carbon use and CO2 and environmental damage

Its a no brainer alright.

[scissorhands]

What's do they take to get the urge to rape white men?

'mahu vahine' stamped on the forehead?





Cannabis legalisation in US shows opportunity for NZ tourism


Norml New Zealand welcomes the legalisation of cannabis in the US states of Colorado and Washington and call for a similar law change here.

Norml vice-president Abe Gray said many people choose to visit and immigrate to New Zealand especially because of the laid back kiwi attitude and relaxed atmosphere.

"New Zealand has the highest rate of cannabis use in the developed world, and many of our tourists routinely solicit locals, looking to buy cannabis", said Mr. Gray

"By simply legitimising what is already happening all over New Zealand, time and time again, every day, we could be free of the harmful effects of prohibition on kiwis, and reaping the windfall revenues projected by Colorado and Washington"

Mr. Gray said Britain had also relaxed its cannabis laws in the last month.

“New Zealand needs to find a way to grow our tourism numbers without impacting on our already stretched recreational infrastructure. Conventional wisdom is that we need more visitors to stay in cities for longer and spend more money, so we need some new niche tourism product to attract that type of visitor", said Mr. Gray

"Cannabis tourists love to just chill out and spend time checking out cafes and galleries. They also spend more on average than the typical backpacker. Cannabis is yet another locally grown commodity that they would love to consume along with our world renowned wine and food. But as kiwi business owners well know, if you want to make the most out of an emerging market, you have to be in before everyone else"

Previous New Zealand drug policy has seemingly always been to copy the US and the UK. So lets keep copying them and reform our cannabis prohibition laws as recommended by the New Zealand Law Commission, and we can ride the green wave to economic prosperity

[ducatilover]

The problem as always is prohibition. Take away prohibition and viola, everyone is growing outdoors

Scenario 1.

Dope smoker/grower, no car, no license, no overseas travel[conviction], rides his BMX down the skatepark, doesnt wash himself or cloths much, no commuting as is unemployed, possibly vegetarian, no hobbies just weed growing and air guitar playing, etc etc....

Scenario 2.

Upwardly mobile businessman, Audi upgraded every other year, overseas travel, long commutes from hobby farm to city, air conditioned offices, underfloor heating at home, maintenance costs on the batch or boat, business functions in Queenstown, many new toys and gadgets, new phone every year etc etc.....

Overseas travel alone pushes scenario2 well well well beyond scenario1 in carbon use and CO2 and environmental damage

Its a no brainer.

next chickenshit will be saying cannabis causes Polynesians to rape white wimen

But why would you start growing outside if you're supplying? That's what I want to know.
Obviously the home, self use grower will grow outside, not everyone though has the time/space/energy to grow their own (look at Tobacco, for instance...)
So, would it be worth looking in to more efficient measures for inside growers (as my previous question asked)
I've already said, I do not know fuck all about growing pot, so educate me? I would expcet it likes a certain climate to flourish and go mad, to grow as people demand? I also suspect a big scale, outside set up will be a little more spread out, and will take up a lot of room, with less gaurantees of production rates. Then another thing I won't bother touching on would be growth enhancing stuff (word slips my mind, tired/beer/no hookers etc)
Perhaps the outdoor growth is far more profitable than I would have thought? And sustainable?

Sorry, is that what I pos... fuck, I did didn't I. I do apologise, I feel dirty, almost as though I've been assimilated.

You are dirty, Mashy. Very.

Slut.

Grow lamps. Not those big power Power POWER sodium bulbs, but the LED's that have low draw v high output and can run for 18 hours (all 130 of them) off a motorcycle battery. Bummer is though, them LED's are feckin expensive. I believe it's to do with light wavelengths more than just light and the right mix of LED's seems to do the trick according the the interwebz. Wish I had had a bit more money to give them a whirl.



What's do they take to get the urge to rape white men?

Well, here is a good bit of consumer advice, LED lamps.
Do they deliver the heat/whatever the plants need?
LEDs aren't that expensive, and the cost of running them would easily outweigh the benefits.
What 'bout them ozone generators? What's that and is it hungry?

look, I'll be a pro-pot-grower by the end of this thread.
Or I might have gained some answers to some questions that I find interesting.
There's no denying there's a large amount of electricity consumed making indoor pot. I've known enough people growing to know that it ain't cheap. Which is bad for teh environmentthing, which many of my heavier marijuana smoking mates claim they want to save.

[ducatilover]

many of our tourists routinely solicit locals, looking to buy cannabis", said Mr. Gray

This is very true. I helped out some German and French tourists that broke down on our driveway a few years ago (because I'm a nice chap, and French chicks are hot) and they were very interested in finding somebody to get some weed from, apparently in Germany it's a bit hard to get.

[scissorhands]

Here you go catlover

This video below shows outdoor medpot farms in northern California. California dispensary's are supplied from [mostly] outdoor crops tended by teams of live in guys with guns as each pound is still worth US$3-4k

Cannabis is a weed and vey easy to grow almost anywhere except frost, tho a light frost can be tolerated. The main problem with outdoor crops is heavy rain washing trichomes off the plant surface, thus lowering potency and enjoyability.

Cali has low rain so is ideal as these images show. 10lb massive plants. i think at the end of this video shows a harvesting factory complete with machinery and workers in the crop shed