Dobbed in weed-growing parents

[bogan]

I think I see whats going on here. In a one of a kind reaction, the massive amounts or irony in this thread have formed a stable, self sustaining reaction, that may never run out.

[SMOKEU]

The lady in the article does however forget to mentions how she is lucky that her sons are not being criminalised by the use of K2. Which means she could/can go to see a doctor and have the addiction of her sons treated as a medical issue and not treated as a criminal issue.

If a patient admits to consuming illegal drugs, then a medical doctor or other healthcare professional is legally forbidden from informing police about it. It's all about patient confidentiality, so any illegal drug use is treated as a medical issue, not a criminal one by the healthcare system.

[scumdog]

It appears cannabis and synthetic cannabis is the same thing to the uninformed and those biased to make incorrect connections based on a name only.

Synthetic cannabis is not cannabis at all. It is very harmful. The real thing which is illegal, is safe

So true scissorhand - why the hell it is referred to as '"synthetic CANNABIS" I do not know - it's just chemical junk that has been soaked into some sort of shredded vegetable matter (or even paper).

There is nothing cannabis about it at all...all older regular users of cannabis I've spoken to won't touch the stuff - well not more than once.

[blue rider]

So true scissorhand - why the hell it is referred to as '"synthetic CANNABIS" I do not know - it's just chemical junk that has been soaked into some sort of shredded vegetable matter (or even paper).

There is nothing cannabis about it at all...all older regular users of cannabis I've spoken to won't touch the stuff - well not more than once.

don't blame peeps for it ....they have not invented the term. No proper user of cannabis will use K2 and the likes because they now it is not the real deal. However for some, smoking K2 is just a legal alternative to Cannabis.

They use it because it is legal.

[blue rider]

If a patient admits to consuming illegal drugs, then a medical doctor or other healthcare professional is legally forbidden from informing police about it. It's all about patient confidentiality, so any illegal drug use is treated as a medical issue, not a criminal one by the healthcare system.

this might as it be....but dobbers in are well alive and kicking.
And a great many will not get the health advise/health care etc because they are afraid going to a hospital and admitting to having taking illegal substances....., also proper rehabilitation for many is not easy to get.

Disclosure; My grandmother buried two of her 5 sons to drug overdoses (this was in the early eighties and the other kicked the bucked end of 90's after almost 30 years in the scene. I know what drugs can do, and I also know how irrational people on drugs, especially heavy users and properly addicted ones will react if you point out their issues.
One died of liver cirrhosis and one of standard cancer.

Funny the only one of her sons that is still alive is the alcoholic.....

[Akzle]

Hmmm... "Hello, my name is Blackdog and I'm a...."

white cat.

The big omission in the article is why do her boys feel the need to "escape" the real world....consuming any mind altering substance to the point of loosing ones job, and being suspended from school, points to larger issues.

they are in timaru...

I'm disappointed at the lack of logic. I guess thats why the world is going down the gurgler.... lack of good any* thinking.

I think I see whats going on here. In a one of a kind reaction, the massive amounts or irony in this thread have formed a stable, self sustaining reaction, that may never run out.

oi. quit it with the physics shit or this thread will get PDd.

[Katman]

Its disappointing no one differentiates between a safe substance and a unsafe one.

None of my weed smoking friends would go near the legal alternative, because it is very harmful

Yet, none of the above do gooders tsk tsking away.....are able to perceive this fact due to their own emotive bias.

It appears cannabis and synthetic cannabis is the same thing to the uninformed and those biased to make incorrect connections based on a name only.

Synthetic cannabis is not cannabis at all. It is very harmful. The real thing which is illegal, is safe

Can no one see the hypocrisy of the state and those pushing their anti cannabis barrows, based on the stories of woe around the unsafe legal version sold in shops?

I'm disappointed at the lack of logic. I guess thats why the world is going down the gurgler.... lack of good thinking.

Regarding the woman in the article, rather than looking within for her sons behaviours she is shifting blame. Bit like those comments above

Quoted 'cos some people on here need to read it again.

[Mushu]

Another sad sack who talks in absolutes and claims to speak for everybody...

You carry on with your addiction to mind altering substances, at least they keep you happy and give you a fulfilling and purposeful life...

Funnily enough your first paragraph seems to apply to you as much as I.

My addiction, lol, actually I haven't smoked pot in almost 3 months. Since then I have smoked a couple of packs of the legal stuff (never again) and have increased my alcohol intake considerably but even then I'm drinking very little, would never drive after more than 1 beer and wouldn't go anywhere near my bikes with any alcohol at all in my system. Can't seem to kick the nicotine or caffeine habits though.

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[Edbear]

Funnily enough your first paragraph seems to apply to you as much as I.

My addiction, lol, actually I haven't smoked pot in almost 3 months. Since then I have smoked a couple of packs of the legal stuff (never again) and have increased my alcohol intake considerably but even then I'm drinking very little, would never drive after more than 1 beer and wouldn't go anywhere near my bikes with any alcohol at all in my system. Can't seem to kick the nicotine or caffeine habits though.

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Feel free to quote me anywhere I have done so.

[Mushu]

Feel free to quote me anywhere I have done so.

Absolutes, what about most of your posts which insinuate us 'dope smokers' are nothing but junkies.

How about you quote a post where I claim to speak for everyone. While you claim to be well respected by all but a very few of us, seems to me like you speak for the vast majority, or atleast think you do.

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[Katman]

While you claim to be well respected by all but a very few of us, seems to me like you speak for the vast majority, or atleast think you do.

It's Ed's idea of witnessing.

[Edbear]

Absolutes, what about most of your posts which insinuate us 'dope smokers' are nothing but junkies.

How about you quote a post where I claim to speak for everyone. While you claim to be well respected by all but a very few of us, seems to me like you speak for the vast majority, or atleast think you do.

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More than a few on KB. Its got nothing to do with self eseem, more to do with your bullshit attitude, popped many pills today?

Ed, nobody cares about your sob story why you don't ride, why don't you go back to one of those other social network sites where you claim to be well respected, cos you just talk a ton of shit here.

On another note, I threw my Thai High/ K2 stash out the window the other night, not liking the effect it has, won't be going there again.
Wish I could get away with smoking some real shit. I would tend to agree that even P isn't as bad for you as the legal highs

So no quotes then... Why is it that without exception, every time a member is challenged to back their statements about me with, you know, anything like facts, or quotes, they never do?

I know who red reps me, I read the comments in threads, and I get a lot of PM's. Sorry if I take note of actual reality rather than prejudiced fantasy.

[Mushu]

So no quotes then... Why is it that without exception, every time a member is challenged to back their statements about me with, you know, anything like facts, or quotes, they never do?

I know who red reps me, I read the comments in threads, and I get a lot of PM's. Sorry if I take note of actual reality rather than prejudiced fantasy.

Nobody quotes you because it's not worth my time to go back and find the posts, when they add a search for dumb shit option maybe they will. I've never given anybody red rep and I don't care how many PMs you get nor do I care about your distorted, opiate hazed view of reality. This thread makes me wanna smoke a joint.

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[SMOKEU]

Ed - you really need to spark up a cone. ASAP. It's a good combo with opioids.

[bogan]

Why is it that without exception, every time a member is challenged to back their statements about me with, you know, anything like facts, or quotes, they never do?

Its cos you write a metric shit-tonne of drivel to sift through, then hide behind the whole you've misinterpretted it thing when some people bother to.

Btw, you might find madness's sig is an exception...