Dobbed in weed-growing parents

[Edbear]

Do you have to make every thread about yourself? Take a load off man, snort a cone or whatever it is the kids call it these days and become one with universe, check your ego at the door and get some perspective. Legalizing weed is coming, deal with it.

Oh, so sorry. Madness hasn't mentioned me at all, he was talking about someone else, my mistake.

[Madness]

So you're not above committing libel either.

Sue me, Fuckface.

And of course you know me personally and have spent time in my company to observe first hand the effects of my meds on myself.

Ed, I think most of the KB regulars know you well enough to be able to label you a fucked-up drug addict. Besides, has anyone who believes that I shouldn't have the legal right to use a natural plant for relaxation purposes in the privacy in my own home actually gone to the trouble of coming to witness first-hand the effects of Cannabis on me? No, the fucking haven't. What was your point again?

You have also been with me when I was consulting with my Dr. on the best drugs to use and their possible effects.

Don't be silly, Ed. I tell you what though, I wonder if you may have been prescribed Cannabis instead of Opiates if the Cannabis laws in this country had been a little more sensible?

You're a fraud with as much credibility as Bogan, which is of course, none whatsoever.

Actually Ed, I think the Shorai thread has left no doubt in anyone's mind as to who the biggest fraud on KB is.

[Katman]

Oh, so sorry. Madness hasn't mentioned me at all, he was talking about someone else, my mistake.

I think he was talking about Tramadol addicts.

Are you a Tramadol addict Ed?

[SMOKEU]

mainline heroin you pussy.
70% heroin, 30% cocaine.
Fuken ride of your life.

That sounds fun! Like a speedball.

Does that shit affect one's ability to drive at all?

Yes, it makes the mind quite "cloudy" and "muddy" in a way, like a strong cannabis stone without the "high". Of course it affects every user differently.

Do you have to make every thread about yourself? Take a load off man, snort a cone or whatever it is the kids call it these days and become one with universe, check your ego at the door and get some perspective. Legalizing weed is coming, deal with it.

He sounds like he needs it.

[Madness]

People like to make emotive comments that don't reflect reality.

I know, right?

Perhaps the best idea is for those charged with making the laws and those pro the freedom to have free access to the drugs to accompany those on the front line for a week or two. The Police, the Paramedics, the hospital emergency rooms, and the counselling agencies.

Then there might be a better understanding of the reality and less angst and argument.

Eh? What does that have to do with accompanying the front liners? That's the reality.

Here's a challenge for you. Go and spend a Friday or Saturday night with the police on duty. Then comment.

Ummm. You're talking to someone born in the late '50's. ... Lol! What do you think the '60's and '70's were like?

It's been a general trend since the 1960's, the downhill slide of standards and the increase in the bad consequences. I guess only those of us who were there at the time and have observed down through the years can grasp the reality of it. For the young ones it's normal life.

I abstained myself, but the number of people using it who I worked with was enough to make it obvious that it was something I couldn't handle. I was able to observe first hand its effects on a large number of people. None were ever violent on it but all of them seemed to lose their inhibitions and relax after a very short while. Being a passenger in their vehicle wasn't my idea of fun either on account of me being such a tightly wound little princess.

They would lose their work ethic, too, and were pretty casual about honesty but most of them were black so what do you expect? When alcohol was being abused it was time for sensible people to leave. Black eyes and bruising was expected at work the next day.

People are stupid and those using drugs in order to get high won't generally admit that there is anything wrong with them. ..

Only when something really serious hits them square might they start to think about it.

Bollox, if you had to personally experience everything to know anything about it you'd die very young. Those who cannot learn by observation are seriously compromised.

So you're not above committing libel either. And of course you know me personally and have spent time in my company to observe first hand the effects of my meds on myself. You have also been with me when I was consulting with my Dr. on the best drugs to use and their possible effects.

You're a fraud with as much credibility as Bogan, which is of course, none whatsoever.

[SMOKEU]

I love my drugs just as much (if not more) than the next person, but I can safely say I would not want consume ANY type of opioids daily for more than 1 or 2 weeks at the very most. That shit is dangerous. Fucking junkies.

[mashman]

Medical cannabis report disappoints

"The Ministry of Health said it was concerned about the use of raw cannabis as it varied greatly in chemical composition and strength."

""The report also failed to recognise that any health risks from smoking raw cannabis can be mitigated through edible or vaporised alternatives.""

"Pharmaceutical cannabis medicine Sativex had already been approved for use in New Zealand, but was difficult to get and was not subsidised, Mr Bell said."

"The Drug Foundation was drafting an application to Pharmac to subsidise Sativex, Mr Bell said."

So it's basically the dosage that's the issue. Or is it that there's a man made pharmaceutical product out there? Let's see.

I smell a rat given that you could take as many sativex as you like. Dosage argument debunked.

Side effects must be the issue then. There are well documented side-effects with cannabis, I wonder what the side-effects of sativex could be?

abdominal pain, burning sensation in the mouth, constipation, diarrhea, dizziness, dry mouth, flushing, forgetfulness or poor concentration, headache, increased appetite, mood changes, nausea, sore throat, soreness or stinging sensation in mouth, tiredness, trouble sleeping, unusual taste in the mouth, vomiting, weakness, anxiety, blurred vision, confusion, fainting, falls, or difficulty with balance, hallucinations (seeing, hearing, or feeling things that are not there) or strange ideas, intoxication (a feeling of being drunk; e.g., difficulty paying attention, dizziness, sleepiness, disorientation, changes in mood, a feeling of unreality, or a feeling of general happiness or a "high," such as easy laughter or heightened awareness), loss of appetite, mouth sores, rapid heartbeat, severe dizziness, severe tiredness, signs of depression (e.g., poor concentration, changes in weight, changes in sleep, decreased interest in activities, thoughts of suicide), blood in the urine, inability to urinate, bladder pain, or abdominal pain, signs of a severe allergic reactions (e.g., hives; difficulty breathing; or swelling of the tongue, face, mouth, or throat).

bwaaaaaaa ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haaaaaaa. Yup, must be a dosage thing.

Money talks folks and it's the health of those on your country that's at stake... glad we'll be subsidising this shit soon.

[Akzle]

"Pharmaceutical cannabis medicine Sativex had already been approved for use in New Zealand, but was difficult to get and was not subsidised, Mr Bell said.".

i fucking missed that, i knew the pharmajews were doing it in 'straya, but they do all kinds of dumb shit in 'straya,
...like have a woman PM(s )

ahhh
thank fuck for the jews running the show, god only knows how we'd do without them. (pun intended, fuckers)

[Madness]

http://www.policymic.com/articles/89...ado-looks-like

Take a moment to think about how many blood transfusions all that extra tax revenue could fund.

[Katman]

Only an idiot could ignore the growing evidence of the value of Cannabis as a medicinal product.

It stands to reason that if there is healing benefit from it then it is morally reprehensible for the powers that be to continue persecuting it's users.

The times they are a-changin'.

[mashman]

http://www.policymic.com/articles/89...ado-looks-like

Take a moment to think about how many blood transfusions all that extra tax revenue could fund.

I wonder if there have been any savings to policing and healthcare in regards to alcohol replacement?

And, bwaaaaaa ha ha ha ha ha ha haaaa

[BoristheBiter]

The times they are a-changin'.

What like how everyone used to smoke (tobacco) and now they don't?

[blue rider]

What like how everyone used to smoke (tobacco) and now they don't?

oh they are still smoking

http://www.stats.govt.nz/browse_for_...o-smoking.aspx

[BoristheBiter]

oh they are still smoking

http://www.stats.govt.nz/browse_for_...o-smoking.aspx

So that is only 15% of over 15 years old smoke.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle/...ectid=11170993

[Shaun Harris]

Only an idiot could ignore the growing evidence of the value of Cannabis as a medicinal product.

It stands to reason that if there is healing benefit from it then it is morally reprehensible for the powers that be to continue persecuting it's users.

The times they are a-changin'.

I have a mate I know very well who can avoid taking his pain killers that make him very tired and loose his ballance by smoking a bit of pot during the day if not doing anything involving safety or machinery operations on the day, and that has got to be better than jut swallowing the chemically made pain killers