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    Quote Originally Posted by James Deuce View Post
    Sanitarium. For example.
    Do they even have a board in NZ?

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    The most successful bank in the US, is the State owned Bank of North Dakota.

    Its President and CEO earns ........ : $232,500
    Chief Lending Officer: $135,133
    Chief Administrative Officer: $122,533
    Director of Student Loans of North Dakota: $91,725

    The very existence of a successful Bank of North Dakota undermines Wall Street's claim that in order to attract the best talent big banks need to offer enormous pay packages. Yet somehow, North Dakota is able to find the talent to run one of the soundest banks in the country? The BND is living proof that Wall Street's rationale for sky-high executive pay is a self-serving fabrication.


    http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/1...d-north-dakota

    This self serving bullshit about paying peanuts and getting monkeys is just that - bullshit, put out by those who are on enormous salaries to justify their thieving from the shareholders!. More like - pay plantations and get self serving, sociopathic shitheads!
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    Quote Originally Posted by SPman View Post
    The most successful bank in the US, is the State owned Bank of North Dakota.

    Its President and CEO earns ........ : $232,500
    Chief Lending Officer: $135,133
    Chief Administrative Officer: $122,533
    Director of Student Loans of North Dakota: $91,725

    The very existence of a successful Bank of North Dakota undermines Wall Street's claim that in order to attract the best talent big banks need to offer enormous pay packages. Yet somehow, North Dakota is able to find the talent to run one of the soundest banks in the country? The BND is living proof that Wall Street's rationale for sky-high executive pay is a self-serving fabrication.


    http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/1...d-north-dakota

    This self serving bullshit about paying peanuts and getting monkeys is just that - bullshit, put out by those who are on enormous salaries to justify their thieving from the shareholders!. More like - pay plantations and get self serving, sociopathic shitheads!
    Jim on national radio, read out one of me emails , its all self serving gobbledy gook fot the few to feather their nests

    I noticed that he read it out ,quickly and between other email, almost to hide it

    once u start taking money from , or debasing the man , he get bent right out of shape ,,,he dont like losing his monieze

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oscar View Post
    Do they even have a board in NZ?
    Who cares. Their pwners are a registered charity and they pay no tax. They can lubricate their weetbix with marmite and shove up their rectum. Sanitarium products have been removed from my shelves and thrown out. I'm sick of profiteering arseholes taking the piss.
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    Quote Originally Posted by James Deuce View Post
    Who cares. Their pwners are a registered charity and they pay no tax. They can lubricate their weetbix with marmite and shove up their rectum. Sanitarium products have been removed from my shelves and thrown out. I'm sick of profiteering arseholes taking the piss.
    It occurred to me when you mentioned them that there was a whole new thread subject right there - the tax exempt status of religion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oscar View Post
    It occurred to me when you mentioned them that there was a whole new thread subject right there - the tax exempt status of religion.
    Any discussion just ends up in "that" thread. Even the history lesson bits.
    If a man is alone in the woods and there isn't a woke Hollywood around to call him racist, is he still white?



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    Quote Originally Posted by James Deuce View Post
    Any discussion just ends up in "that" thread. Even the history lesson bits.
    the thread that shall be nameless , unlike the "Scottish play "

    Stephen
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian d marge View Post
    the thread that shall be nameless , unlike the "Scottish play "

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    "Macbeth" ???? Or "Pointless Drivel " .. much the same thing really ..
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    Four months after listing and some buyers still do not know how many shares they have purchased !!!!

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/n...ectid=11135851

    And the compnay is saying "check your junk mail" .. somehow that seems appropriate ... Buyers might ask to pay the current stock exchange listing price ..

    Would you buy a used power company from this Government ???
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    Meanwhile they are still getting their substantial annual dividend from the company and they can still sell their shares when they get them!

    Should be a better return than simply having their money invested with a bank!

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldrider View Post
    Meanwhile they are still getting their substantial annual dividend from the company and they can still sell their shares when they get them!

    Should be a better return than simply having their money invested with a bank!
    MRP share price since float:
    http://www.findata.co.nz/Markets/StockQuote/NZX/MRP.htm


    MRP share buyback

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/n...ectid=11137953

    So if MRP buy back the shares at todays prices, some investors really would have been better off leaving the money in the bank
    it's not a bad thing till you throw a KLR into the mix.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pete376403 View Post
    MRP share price since float:
    http://www.findata.co.nz/Markets/StockQuote/NZX/MRP.htm


    MRP share buyback

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/n...ectid=11137953

    So if MRP buy back the shares at todays prices, some investors really would have been better off leaving the money in the bank
    Personal choice ... thems the risks and the breaks ... I left mine in the bank this time!

    Share market is mostly long term ... short term is pretty dodgy, some know how to work it to their advantage ... I don't!

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    The MRP offer price was too high when considering their planned plant refurbishment, the state of water storage in Lake Taupo and the projected returns. At the time I estimate that they were probably only worth around $2.10 per share, so didn't buy any.

    With Meridian, I am buying as many as I can afford.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jantar View Post
    The MRP offer price was too high when considering their planned plant refurbishment, the state of water storage in Lake Taupo and the projected returns. At the time I estimate that they were probably only worth around $2.10 per share, so didn't buy any.

    With Meridian, I am buying as many as I can afford.
    Plant refurb was already included in PFI estimates .... All contractual obligations, no cost blowout risk. Only risk was delays, which there were ~1m.

    MRP is currently range trading. Hits a floor of about of about 217 and peels off after it hits 220 highs. +/- 5% here or there, good liquidity attracting loads of "day traders"...

    Meridian I'd be careful with. Yes its the lowest cost generator but has a number of fundamental risks which overshadow it.If you look at earnings volatility its the highest out there... Their storage is very small. Also being a generator in the south and if anything goes wrong with the HVDC cable you've got 6m loss of earnings. Wholesale prices in the Nth Island rocket and MRP starts turning water into gold, along with Genesis and Contact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aprilia_RS250 View Post
    Plant refurb was already included in PFI estimates .... All contractual obligations, no cost blowout risk. Only risk was delays, which there were ~1m.
    It may have been, in which case I missed it.

    Quote Originally Posted by aprilia_RS250 View Post
    Meridian I'd be careful with. Yes its the lowest cost generator but has a number of fundamental risks which overshadow it.If you look at earnings volatility its the highest out there... Their storage is very small. Also being a generator in the south and if anything goes wrong with the HVDC cable you've got 6m loss of earnings. Wholesale prices in the Nth Island rocket and MRP starts turning water into gold, along with Genesis and Contact.
    "Their storage is very small." Huh? They have the most storage of any generator in the whole country.

    "....if anything goes wrong with the HVDC cable you've got 6m loss of earnings." There are 3 cables, not just one. But there are two poles. Pole 1 is now fully decommissioned, Pole 3 is now fully commissioned, and Pole 2 is going through the final stages of its control system tests. Its SRT test last week was successfull. Up till tis year there was a very real risk with the HVDC. That risk is now very small.

    yes Meridian is exposed to high North Island prices, and they can hedge against that. The real risk to earnings is if there is a very dry year in the south and there is a lot of northerly wind generation in the Waiarapa. That causes the circuits south of Bunnythorpe into Wellington to constrain and results in high prices in the Wellington area. Meridian are then exposed in an area that they can't supply and can't hedge.
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