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    Quote Originally Posted by Oscar View Post
    Absolute rubbish.
    The islands were unihabited when discovered by europeans, and are 500 kms from the mainland.
    On that basis, Denmark has a right to invade Iceland.
    As the locals wish the status quo to remain by a majority approaching 99%, what about the International Convention on Human Rights?

    If it really was contrary to international law, why did the Argies have to resort to war to reclaim the islands?
    Also, why do you not mention that one side in the war actually fitted the accepted definition of a Fascist Regime?
    Do you support the Argie Juanta in their attempt to get their way by military force?
    Where is your outrage for "the disappeared"?
    A popular misconception it would seem.

    500km from Argentina, maybe, but quite some distance from Kensington High Road.

    In an effort to stave of wars from imperialism, international laws where made requiring certain conditions to be met when claiming countries or terrirtories as your own (Like the race between France and England for New Zealand in regards to colonisation..... it was pretty close you know.... NZ was very nearly French (Port Luis Phillip anyone?..... ever noticed how narrow the streets in Akaroa are?

    Both countries where bound by an international traety to have a certain number of nationals on a country before it was considered "theirs", and it was also a requirement that it was done in a certain time frame (Prisoners to Australia anyone?)

    In regards to The Maldivas, due to the proximity to Argentina, England was required to have a host of conditions met to satisfy their claim, (if I remember correctly, none where met).......

    The only reason they wanted the land was oil, they only reasosn the international community let it happen was, well they where bigger, and thats what matters in this situation..... England wanted the little kids lunch money, and no-one stopped it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Taylor View Post
    A very very sad day, may Margaret rest in peace
    Ah, yes - The Iron Lady.

    May she rust in peace.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SS90 View Post
    A popular misconception it would seem.

    500km from Argentina, maybe, but quite some distance from Kensington High Road.

    In an effort to stave of wars from imperialism, international laws where made requiring certain conditions to be met when claiming countries or terrirtories as your own (Like the race between France and England for New Zealand in regards to colonisation..... it was pretty close you know.... NZ was very nearly French (Port Luis Phillip anyone?..... ever noticed how narrow the streets in Akaroa are?

    Both countries where bound by an international traety to have a certain number of nationals on a country before it was considered "theirs", and it was also a requirement that it was done in a certain time frame (Prisoners to Australia anyone?)

    In regards to The Maldivas, due to the proximity to Argentina, England was required to have a host of conditions met to satisfy their claim, (if I remember correctly, none where met).......

    The only reason they wanted the land was oil, they only reasosn the international community let it happen was, well they where bigger, and thats what matters in this situation..... England wanted the little kids lunch money, and no-one stopped it.
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    I was disappointed that they didn't have a minutes silence during the Manchester derby the other night. At least City sent on an Argentinian sub at half time.

    Nah, I'm not disappointed. I grew up in a mining village just outside Nottingham and left school in 1983 so I can understand some of the comments coming out of the UK. I will certainly be watching the funeral, mainly to see the riot police out in force again. Be a fitting tribute really after the miners and the poll tax riots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SS90 View Post
    A popular misconception it would seem.

    500km from Argentina, maybe, but quite some distance from Kensington High Road.

    In an effort to stave of wars from imperialism, international laws where made requiring certain conditions to be met when claiming countries or terrirtories as your own (Like the race between France and England for New Zealand in regards to colonisation..... it was pretty close you know.... NZ was very nearly French (Port Luis Phillip anyone?..... ever noticed how narrow the streets in Akaroa are?

    Both countries where bound by an international traety to have a certain number of nationals on a country before it was considered "theirs", and it was also a requirement that it was done in a certain time frame (Prisoners to Australia anyone?)

    In regards to The Maldivas, due to the proximity to Argentina, England was required to have a host of conditions met to satisfy their claim, (if I remember correctly, none where met).......

    The only reason they wanted the land was oil, they only reasosn the international community let it happen was, well they where bigger, and thats what matters in this situation..... England wanted the little kids lunch money, and no-one stopped it.
    First of all - it's Malvinas
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    But most of all, and feel free to prove otherwise, the Falklands were uninhabited and Argentina did not exist when the Europeans first arrived.
    Add in the fact that 97% of Argentinians are actually descended from white colonists and then you see how ridiculous the situation is.
    It's like Australia claiming NZ on the basis that NZ was uninhabited when the Aborigines first lived in Aussie...

    As for your last point, the Argentine regime in 1982 was one of the nastiest around - the international community couldn't wait for someone to kick Galteri's arse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Taylor View Post
    Oil, soverignty, sending a message to dictators etc. The aggressors by far suffered the greatest losses, thats fair. Not all of us are pacifists.
    Fucking heartless armchair warrior....or should I say Gormless Twat.

    The number of suicides of the actual warriors could be indicative of how they felt about the war.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hinny View Post

    The number of suicides of the actual warriors is indicative of how they felt about the war.
    And you know this...how?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Berries View Post
    I grew up in a mining village just outside Nottingham and left school in 1983 so I can understand some of the comments coming out of the UK.
    I was working in London then, and I can tell you that the only sympathy for the industry there was from the press.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oscar View Post
    First of all - it's Malvinas
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    But most of all, and feel free to prove otherwise, the Falklands were uninhabited and Argentina did not exist when the Europeans first arrived.
    Add in the fact that 97% of Argentinians are actually descended from white colonists and then you see how ridiculous the situation is.
    It's like Australia claiming NZ on the basis that NZ was uninhabited when the Aborigines first lived in Aussie...

    As for your last point, the Argentine regime in 1982 was one of the nastiest around - the international community couldn't wait for someone to kick Galteri's arse.
    Hey, I never said I supported the regime, I just presented a different angle to the conversation.

    By international law, it should not be considered English territory.

    He was not dubbed the tinpot General for nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SS90 View Post
    Hey, I never said I supported the regime, I just presented a different angle to the conversation.

    By international law, it should not be considered English territory.

    He was not dubbed the tinpot General for nothing.
    Maybe they should just ask the locals?











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    Quote Originally Posted by Berries View Post
    I was disappointed that they didn't have a minutes silence during the Manchester derby the other night. At least City sent on an Argentinian sub at half time.

    Nah, I'm not disappointed. I grew up in a mining village just outside Nottingham and left school in 1983 so I can understand some of the comments coming out of the UK. I will certainly be watching the funeral, mainly to see the riot police out in force again. Be a fitting tribute really after the miners and the poll tax riots.
    Yes and I lived in England till 1991, and left to come here in my early 30's.. I also remember the Miner's Strike and was in a security dog handlers van on top of a multi storey car park in Brixton when the riot went off,, (that was farkin scary)

    However the Miners strike? Yes I remember it well, and the local Pub's in Thornton Heath (Croydon) being FULL and I mean FULL of 'STARVING MINERS' getting pissed while their wives and women were out in the streets begging? collecting money etc.
    I also remember the Orgreive coke plant and miners strike that did in Ted Heath's govt......
    Lets not forget the asshole's likr Scargil, who held a country to ransom in mid winter, causing massive power cuts, and putting 100,000's of elderly people at severe risk of hypothermia and many DID DIE,,,, As well as Billions of pounds in lost production.
    SO you think Maggie was going to let the prat win round 2??? Scargill was a 'communist twat' who had no real interest in the 'Miner's welfare' he was only interested in Arthur Scargill........
    I hated the Pol tax as much as the next person, and yes I agree Maggie went too far on some things,,, but by christ, I can bet a pound to a pinch of shit, if she were in power in her prime today? The UK would not be in the sorry shit state as the social benifit haven and dumping ground of 'poor European' countries it is now in,,,
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    What if the Morris Marina and the Austin Allegro had been reliable and successful cars built by craftsmen, then maybe Maggie wouldn't have needed to bust the unions, oh but that's right, the workers used to sleep on the night shift?
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    Quote Originally Posted by merv View Post
    What if the Morris Marina and the Austin Allegro had been reliable and successful cars built by craftsmen, then maybe Maggie wouldn't have needed to bust the unions, oh but that's right, the workers used to sleep on the night shift?
    Sad bloody thing is.. if you read up on the Allegro, it was a highly advanced design for it's day, and had it been built with any real quality??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hinny View Post
    Fucking heartless armchair warrior....or should I say Gormless Twat.

    The number of suicides of the actual warriors could be indicative of how they felt about the war.
    So you would have just let the Argentinean's take over the country and not lift a finger even though the locals are screaming for your help?

    And who's a fascist?

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    I had an office in UK Squaddieland and met quite a few involved.

    Apparently it was a courtmarshallable offence to refer to a local male as a 'Benny'.

    Being such a small place there's a lot of inbred folks around and they were like Benny from CrossRoads.


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