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[TheDemonLord]

Something for the fuckwits to chew on for a wee while:https://theuglytruth.wordpress.com/2...anti-semitism/

Already posted but ignored: http://www.reformation.org/khazaria.html

I think I see the issue here - there are in fact 2 separate discussions that could be had:

1: whether or not those who happen to be Jewish and in positions of executive power are working together to further their own aims

for this conversation I am in little doubt that it occurs, but in the same way as those who are Freemasons work together, those who are Christians work together, those who are African-American work together etc.

The next discussion is the pertinent one

2: whether or not blaming everything on the Jews is Anti-Semitic

For this conversation I say that it is. Now in a similar vein of the article posted - I am in little doubt that there are groups that use the veil of Anti-Semitism to censure discussion - again much the same way as people play the Race card to stifle discussion, the Sexism/Misogyny card etc.

The point I am conveying here is that whilst I agree there are probably some dodgy dealings going on behind closed doors, they are no more or no less dodgy than what every other group is trying to do and so to single them out as the sole cause is definitely anti-Semitic.

Probably the final comment is that anytime either side starts throwing around claims - the evidence presented tends to be rather flimsy and is based on a lot of conjecture, the conjectured 'evidence' is then used as the basis for even more conjecture and the end result tends to be rife with compound errors.

[Katman]

The point I am conveying here is that whilst I agree there are probably some dodgy dealings going on behind closed doors, they are no more or no less dodgy than what every other group is trying to do and so to single them out as the sole cause is definitely anti-Semitic.

And that's where you and I disagree.

I believe that evidence points towards a Zionist movement whose goal is to attain world domination.

[oldrider]

I think I see the issue here - there are in fact 2 separate discussions that could be had:

1: whether or not those who happen to be Jewish and in positions of executive power are working together to further their own aims

for this conversation I am in little doubt that it occurs, but in the same way as those who are Freemasons work together, those who are Christians work together, those who are African-American work together etc.

The next discussion is the pertinent one

2: whether or not blaming everything on the Jews is Anti-Semitic

For this conversation I say that it is. Now in a similar vein of the article posted - I am in little doubt that there are groups that use the veil of Anti-Semitism to censure discussion - again much the same way as people play the Race card to stifle discussion, the Sexism/Misogyny card etc.

The point I am conveying here is that whilst I agree there are probably some dodgy dealings going on behind closed doors, they are no more or no less dodgy than what every other group is trying to do and so to single them out as the sole cause is definitely anti-Semitic.

Probably the final comment is that anytime either side starts throwing around claims - the evidence presented tends to be rather flimsy and is based on a lot of conjecture, the conjectured 'evidence' is then used as the basis for even more conjecture and the end result tends to be rife with compound errors.

Exactly - unfortunately there is a lot of interesting history and information damned by a few ill informed opinionated people who obstruct simply for the sake of it!

[TheDemonLord]

And that's where you and I disagree.

I believe that evidence points towards a Zionist movement whose goal is to attain world domination.

I don't disagree on that - I merely say that EVERY group is trying to attain world domination.

[Katman]

I don't disagree on that - I merely say that EVERY group is trying to attain world domination.

Well I think you'll find that their control of the mainstream media and the banking system, and their influence in governments around the world puts them streets ahead of the rest.

[oldrider]

I believe that evidence points towards a Zionist movement whose goal is to attain world domination.

It certainly appears that way but there is much more to be discussed or revealed before that can be ascertained one way or the other!

If it is true as you say then it would appear that it is a forgone conclusion!

Also that they are as clever as they claim and maybe they deserve their place ruling the "New World Order" and the rest of us are as they claim - stupid!

It might save a lot of lives to simply surrender but they claim the battle is won anyway!

[TheDemonLord]

Well I think you'll find that their control of the mainstream media and the banking system, and their influence in governments around the world puts them streets ahead of the rest.

I think the Conservative Christian camp in the US would have something to say about that....

And that only extends to the US, the other Global Super powers (UK, China for example) don't have the same issues.

[husaberg]

Exactly - unfortunately there is a lot of interesting history and information damned by a few ill informed opinionated people who obstruct simply for the sake of it!

Something for the fuckwits to chew on for a wee while]

Maybe if you don't want to be challenged on your views, you should prove that you are able to quantify your posts

All dependent upon protection by the myth of anti-Semitism :

The myth of anti Semitism?. I would like an explanation of this comment Oldie, is it just a myth were Jews and other religions ever striped of nationality or persecuted or prevented from owning land or had all there assets seized. Was this all really just a myth?

Seems they were treated pretty much like we here in NZ treated the Chinese in the goldrush.
There is also strong parallels with how the Australian aborigines were also treated.
The treatment of the American Indians seems eerily similar also.
This is not even comparing the treatment of the Black South Africans.
Or the white Zimbabwean's or the native Zimbabwean's a hundred or so years prior to this.

Still waiting.............................you have had many pages now to come up with your reasoning for this comment oldie.

[oldrider]

I think the Conservative Christian camp in the US would have something to say about that....

And that only extends to the US, the other Global Super powers (UK, China for example) don't have the same issues.

I think you will find that they do - interesting to watch what is evolving currently around the world!

[Katman]

I think the Conservative Christian camp in the US would have something to say about that....

And that only extends to the US, the other Global Super powers (UK, China for example) don't have the same issues.

I think it is Zionists behind the New World Order that we are constantly hearing about.

I don't think the Conservative Christian camp have a snowflake's chance.

[Brian d marge]

And that's where you and I disagree.

I believe that evidence points towards a Zionist movement whose goal is to attain world domination.

We can until bogan has done his research and reports back

Then everyone will be on the same page

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[husaberg]

The catch-cry 'anti-semitism' is thrown around simply as we are being racist. Being racist we object to this as a means to try to shut down discussion.

It's an incredibly prophetic way to win an argument. I don't like the obvious being pointed out.
Thus I reject reality and insert my own.

Here's the issue Katflap you are unable to separate out the hate of individuals actions, vs a group of people.
You are therefor a racist prick. I doubt you will ever see it, but plenty of others do.
Anyone that points it out is dismissed as a conspiracy, after all Why else should they judge you on what you type.

I think it is Zionists behind the New World Order that we are constantly hearing about.
.

You constantly hear about it as all the same retards here post it all the time as being gospel.
You need to see this shadowy wholey Jewish conspiracy as it makes you feel there is a reason that you are like you are.
It gives you (in your head) a platform to spew out your racist beliefs
But it seems not all of your other conspiracies come true either aye Katman.

[Brian d marge]

Here's the issue Katflap you are unable to separate out the hate of individuals actions, vs a group of people.
You are therefor a racist prick. I doubt you will ever see it, but plenty of others do.
Anyone that points it out is dismissed as a conspiracy, after all Why else should they judge you on what you type.



You constantly here about it as all the same retards here post it as gospel.
But it seems not all of your other conspiracies come true either aye Katman.

AsI said its been answered
But
The articles that have been posted have answered all of the question
As bogies and oscar will find out when they complete their work

In a nutshell

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Refusal to recognize or support Israel has nothing to do with being “prejudiced against or hostile toward Jews” and everything to do with rejecting occupation, oppression and the myriad war crimes carried out by the Zionist state.
And im not in a position to check but I think anti semite just refers to the language not the race . . .i heard it somewhere and havent bothered to check

Stephen

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[oldrider]

Here's the issue Katflap you are unable to separate out the hate of individuals actions, vs a group of people.
You are therefor a racist prick. I doubt you will ever see it, but plenty of others do.
Anyone that points it out is dismissed as a conspiracy, after all Why else should they judge you on what you type.



You constantly hear about it as all the same retards here post it all the time as being gospel.
You need to see this shadowy wholey Jewish conspiracy as it makes you feel there is a reason that you are like you are.
It gives you (in your head) a platform to spew out your racist beliefs
But it seems not all of your other conspiracies come true either aye Katman.

You are a complete waste of space husaberg - I thought you were more than that but you're simply an unreasonable empty cut and paste artist!

[husaberg]

As I said its been answered
In a nutshell
Stephen

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I asked a question Oldie repeatedly has ignored it he has ample oportunty to answer and justify what he wrote.
posting links does not answer what his reasoning for what he wrote is.

Stephen lets be crystal clear here. Deriding a race of people based on their race is being racist.
Deriding an entire race of people based on the supposed actions of a couple of people is racist.
Do you disagree with any this.