Only if the 20% that didn't vote is removed from the country for "not giving a shit".Originally Posted by avgas
troglodytam extraordinaire
Only if the 20% that didn't vote is removed from the country for "not giving a shit".
KB's Chief Cats
i give ten kinds of shit. Fuck knows what that has to do with politicians tho...
Maybe the 80% that vote should be put on a little island with those they vote for, then it becomes some kind of survival game, and they can vote every week, and they could film it and put it on television....
Anarchic Wild Child
Naaa .. voting is a non-contributory exercise ...
That 20% still pay taxes and contribute ..
"So if you meet me, have some sympathy, have some courtesy, have some taste ..."
Anarchic Wild Child
Yeah right .. like, we need another game show on that format ..
"So if you meet me, have some sympathy, have some courtesy, have some taste ..."
troglodytam extraordinaire
Only in your own mind.
Funny we do live on a few little islands. maybe we should have teams called the north and south.
troglodytam extraordinaire
But do they?
Just faidin away!
Why do we in NZ always refer to "The" South Island or "The" North Island? They are simply named "North Island" and "South Island" ... no the!
We don't go round saying "The Stewart" or "The Australia" or "The Tasmania" or "The Kapiti or "The Fiji" so why say "The" South Island?
North Island and South Island sounds much better!... (Not a criticism of BoristheBiter by the way, he didn't actually say that. TV and radio do!)
troglodytam extraordinaire
Who knows just one of those things we pick up like why do most people say john keys or we have a road up here that everyone calls east coast bays road when its only east coast road.Why do we in NZ always refer to "The" South Island or "The" North Island? They are simply named "North Island" and "South Island" ... no the!
We don't go round saying "The Stewart" or "The Australia" or "The Tasmania" or "The Kapiti or "The Fiji" so why say "The" South Island?
North Island and South Island sounds much better!
I think it's called bad English.
Curmudgeon
I vaguely recall having some of that explained to me once - why we say "The Waikato" and "The Taranaki", but not "The Otago".Why do we in NZ always refer to "The" South Island or "The" North Island? They are simply named "North Island" and "South Island" ... no the!
We don't go round saying "The Stewart" or "The Australia" or "The Tasmania" or "The Kapiti or "The Fiji" so why say "The" South Island?
North Island and South Island sounds much better!
Pity I can't fucking remember...
Edit.
I think I found it - the definitive article is used in front of descriptive geographical names for areas "The Middle East" "The North". In the case of places like Waikato and Taranaki, these used to part of a larger province (Auckland and Wellington respectively), and weren't officially entities in their own right. So they were "The Waikato" (as in "I'm going down the Waikato" or "..up the Taranaki")
SH1 rider
could be that you are refering to objects not just names. The Waikato comes from the river, easily transferred to the region. There is no Otago object. The south island refers to the main island to the south where as South Island is its name and just as often used. Steward Island would be the southern island or the little island but its name doesn't have a double usage. Just a theory.I vaguely recall having some of that explained to me once - why we say "The Waikato" and "The Taranaki", but not "The Otago".
Pity I can't fucking remember...
Actually do people really refer to the Taranaki? I have heard "the Naki" as a nickname for Taranaki but can't recall anyone saying "the Taranaki". Perhaps that one is more to due with "the Naki" and people backwardly porting the phrase.
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Curmudgeon
More Edit:
http://www.grammarly.com/handbook/gr...e-article-the/
Geographical Use of Definite Article The
English uses the definite article the in front of some geographical names but not in front of others. If in doubt, your best bet is to look it up in a dictionary or online. Here’s a general list of guidelines:
Do not use the before the name of:
most countries or territories (e.g. Canada, China, New Zealand)
towns, cities or states (e.g. Ottawa, Paris, California/
streets (e.g. Front Street, Lakeview Avenue, Dogwood Crescent)
lakes (e.g. Lake Ontario, Lake Placid, Bear Lake)
bays, where the term bay comes after the name (e.g. the Bay of Fundy)
mountains (e.g. Mount Everest, Mount Kilimanjaro)
continents (e.g. North America, Africa)
islands (e.g. Fiji Islands, Prince Edward Island)
Do use the before the name of:
rivers, oceans, seas (e.g. the Mississippi River, the Atlantic Ocean, the Mediterranean)
bays, where the term bay comes first (e.g. the Bay of Fundy, the Bay of Bengal)
gulfs and peninsulas (e.g. the Persian Gulf, the Arabian Peninsula)
mountain ranges (e.g. the Rockies, the Dolomites, the Laurentians)
points on the globe (e.g. the Equator, the North Pole)
geographical areas (e.g. the Middle East, the South)
deserts and forests (e.g. the Gobi Desert, the Black Forest)
N.B. Language is always changing. Fifty years ago, Argentina was known as the Argentine, and the Balkan Islands always had the definite article in front of it. In many places, formal writing may accept the use of the word Argentina, and people may say, “I come from Balkan Islands.”
Curmudgeon
Yup. If you add that to my much less elegant and more long winded explanation, you have it.
one placenta
...if you say, "cunts in the North Island (or South Island), it seems to signify all those who live therein, whereas, "the" cunts in the North Island (or South Island), leaves it somewhat up to those who may wish to own up to being one of the aforementioned people (cunts)...
Forum whore
[QUOTE=Oscar;1130651961]More Edit:
[URL="http://www.grammarly.com/handbook/grammar/articles/12/geographical-use-of-definite-article-the/"]http://www.grammarly.com/handbook/grammar/articles/12/geographical-use-of-definite-article-the/[/URL
Geographical Use of Definite Article The
English uses the definite article the in front of some geographical names but not in front of others. If in doubt, your best bet is to look it up in a dictionary or online. Here’s a general list of guidelines:
Do not use the before the name of:
bays, where the term bay comes after the name (e.g. the Bay of Fundy)
Do use the before the name of:
bays, where the term bay comes first (e.g. the Bay of Fundy, [QUOTE]
Not a good choice of examples.
it's not a bad thing till you throw a KLR into the mix.
those cheap ass bitches can do anything with ductape.
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from that article
N.B. Language is always changing. Fifty years ago, Argentina was known as the Argentine, and the Balkan Islands always had the definite article in front of it. In many places, formal writing may accept the use of the word Argentina, and people may say, “I come from Balkan Islands.”
and just because I can, I’m going to boldly go + use
Stephen
"Look, Madame, where we live, look how we live ... look at the life we have...The Republic has forgotten us."
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