The fascist regime that made you a moron: Thanks dJonkey

[bogan]

Fair enough Winston.

Think of it in terms of a pyramid, the sharp little point of leadership at the top is where the problem has always been and always will be!

That point is dependent on the support of all the lower layers and "that point" will do anything to keep the lower levels there and under their control!

Labeling like Jew anti-semitism etc are just some of the tools used by the pointy bit to maintain identity and control over the (expendable) bottom layers!

The pointy group of people are the ones that Akzle should be aiming at and they are quite easy to identify because they have many labels that they exist under!

"Jews" are truly an historic diverse people and when considering that collectively they only add up to a few percent of total world population they are involved in most worldly things!

Maybe, when you think about it Nazi Germany and Hitler did good work on behalf of the pointy people in keeping the lower levels of the pyrimid under control.

Why else would thousands of comfortable well off Jewish people leave Europe and go and live in a hot sand castle surrounded by hostile Arabs trying to kill them?

Maybe Akzle could try and be a bit more definative in just which part of the pyramid it is that he is trying to expose!

What you need, is the equivalent terminology but opposite end of spectrum to 'pleb'. Jew or even Gew is a dumbarse term; typical of the fucking plebs who make up the so called 99% which in its name alone is very vernacularly plebby.

[oldrider]

From *stuff* http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/poli...Julian-Assange

Julian Assange made a stupid decision ... now he wants to blame (obscure) New Zealand for it!

[Ocean1]

From *stuff*

Snip:

WikiLeaks can confirm he ( lockwood smith ) is universally regarded as a complete tool.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/poli...Julian-Assange


The United Socialist party of america ....* Jump !* ......... New zealand ...yes master , I be a jumping ......

Stephen

if it does go pear shaped , we will probably have to learn chinese , thanks to Australia ,,,, dirty sellouts !

You do realise that's not real, doncha sport?

It's satire.

Fiction.

[mashman]

Oh don't be so silly Mashie. Of course you accord with societies rules. If your wife or daughter were assaulted you'd look to the police for help. If someone steals from you, its the police you go to.

If times are hard you apply for help from social welfare and there is no shame in that. We help each other.

If your family income is low you get income support from other people. You are not a Sovereign Man which by the way is a nonsense concept.

And? Are you saying that if I don't abide by society's rules that I should forfeit any access to particular goods and services? That the reason for my actions and the reason that society has a set of rules that resemble my reasons for my actions does not mean that I am abiding by the rules of society.

There is a shame in it, not the out and out shame of ignoring the issue entirely of which you speak, but that someone requires social welfare in the first place. Hey ho.

Why am I not a sovereign man?

[bogan]

That the reason for my actions and the reason that society has a set of rules that resemble my reasons for my actions does not mean that I am abiding by the rules of society.

But, society says you don't have a right to, what was your term 'everything on this planet'? you say you do, yet you abide by society's ruling on that...

[Brian d marge]

You do realise that's not real, doncha sport?

It's satire.

Fiction.

of course it on * stuff*

I can confirm one slice of the truth

lockwood IS a tool , met him and the current speaker and I can confirm toolism is rife

Stephen

[Ocean1]

of course it on * stuff*

I can confirm one slice of the truth

lockwood IS a tool , met him and the current speaker and I can confirm toolism is rife

Stephen

Well, stuff has been known to report the odd fact. In spite of the influence of presumably educated, presumably professional journalists.

But it's usually not safe to assume they're listed as fiction. And it's not really kosher to present opinion as fact.

[mashman]

But, society says you don't have a right to, what was your term 'everything on this planet'? you say you do, yet you abide by society's ruling on that...

What a load of poo. I have a right to whatever I want. I temper that right with the consideration of others in mind and do so out of recognition/respect for the efforts of those others. I am reasonable enough to expect that you do the same. That is entirely your choice. You have free will. Unfortunately you give that free will away to those who would backup your decision, or not on occasion, by force... Doesn't look like you're keeping up your end of the bargain.

[Brian d marge]

Well, stuff has been known to report the odd fact. In spite of the influence of presumably educated, presumably professional journalists.

But it's usually not safe to assume they're listed as fiction. And it's not really kosher to present opinion as fact.

Now that IS the pot calling the kettle

and that a fact

Stephen

[bogan]

What a load of poo. I have a right to whatever I want. I temper that right with the consideration of others in mind and do so out of recognition/respect for the efforts of those others. I am reasonable enough to expect that you do the same. That is entirely your choice. You have free will. Unfortunately you give that free will away to those who would backup your decision, or not on occasion, by force... Doesn't look like you're keeping up your end of the bargain.

Bullshit, you temper that right by abiding by the rules of society. Plain as day mate.

All this posturing you and akxzle keep doing is up to fuck all really, just a way to absolve your responsibility to the rest of society; which is to say, to recognise that the will of the many is greater than the will of the individual. Instead of copping out like you guys, I actively participate in the society, to take the good with the bad, and to make the good more plentiful. Guess when you cop out you don't need to worry about all that though, seems like the easy route out of it to me... Cowards and petty tyrants you might even say...

[avgas]

Apart from a pointless shit fight. What did I miss?
Did we conclude that the roman and the greeks had it wrong yet? (aka the illusion of a vote for elected officials)

[mashman]

Bullshit, you temper that right by abiding by the rules of society. Plain as day mate.

All this posturing you and akxzle keep doing is up to fuck all really, just a way to absolve your responsibility to the rest of society; which is to say, to recognise that the will of the many is greater than the will of the individual. Instead of copping out like you guys, I actively participate in the society, to take the good with the bad, and to make the good more plentiful. Guess when you cop out you don't need to worry about all that though, seems like the easy route out of it to me... Cowards and petty tyrants you might even say...

No I don't... else I'd never break the law Dream on sunshine and maybe you too will get to wear big boy pants someday.

Holy ironingtastic batman... you really haven't got a clue have you. What a moron.

[mashman]

Apart from a pointless shit fight. What did I miss?
Did we conclude that the roman and the greeks had it wrong yet? (aka the illusion of a vote for elected officials)

bwaaaaaaa ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haaaaaaaaa... no, there's still a strong belief that voting is gonna fix things.

[bogan]

No I don't... else I'd never break the law Dream on sunshine and maybe you too will get to wear big boy pants someday.

Holy ironingtastic batman... you really haven't got a clue have you. What a moron.

Hehe, but enough truth in there to strike a nerve it would seem...

[mashman]

Hehe, but enough truth in there to strike a nerve it would seem...

like I said, dream on sunshine.