The fascist regime that made you a moron: Thanks dJonkey

[Oscar]

Yes, as far as I'm aware they inspected them all.

How did you become aware that they had inspected them all?
Do you have a link?

[TheDemonLord]

You mean the evidence obtained under duress?

You mean the Nuremburg Trials that one of the judges slammed the integrity of?

Those same trials where many of the defense witnesses were not even permitted to give evidence?

What Duress?

The only source you cited was from a biased, non-peer reviewed and disreputable source that only offered Eye Witness evidence (the same type of Eye Witness evidence that you dismiss when it refers to the eye witness accounts of the survivors, the German offices and the Allied troops that liberated the camps) and the word of a white supremacist based on a supposed document that couldn't be presented.

One standard of evidence for Katman's Theories (extremely low) and another standard for everyone else (impossibly high)

[husaberg]

Well there's that little piece of evidence that, according to the International Red Cross, puts the total number of deaths at Concentration Camps at around 271,000.

Incorrect yet again Katflap
The International red cross document to which you are now pining your hopes on figures are I quote.

"The figures used are the number of deaths recorded by the International Tracing Service on the basis of documents found when the camps were closed"
You lose again.
The Red Cross were that horrified that a few were trying to distort these documents they said issued a statement.
http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/1...1#.VaNB054Vg6Y

[Katman]

How did you become aware that they had inspected them all?
Do you have a link?

Stories were circulating as early as mid-1942 of gassings.

Does it not seem strange to you that the Red Cross found no evidence of homicidal gas chambers in any of the inspections that they carried out?

[TheDemonLord]

Stories were circulating as early as mid-1942 of gassings.

Does it not seem strange to you that the Red Cross found no evidence of homicidal gas chambers in any of the inspections that they carried out?

Everytime I have the Red Cross round to inspect my facilities, I always make a point of showing them where I carry out Genocide

[Katman]

"the figures used are "the number of deaths recorded by the International Tracing Service on the basis of documents found when the camps were closed"
You lose again.

So the other five and three quarter million is just a bit of guess-work then?

[Katman]

Everytime I have the Red Cross round to inspect my facilities, I always make a point of showing them where I carry out Genocide

I would imagine that the set-up required to handle the gassing of millions would be a little hard to hide.

[husaberg]

So the other five and three quarter million is just a bit of guess-work then?

Are you deluded your own information you offered is again shown to be being wrong.

Incorrect yet again Katflap
The International red cross document to which you are now pining your hopes on figures are I quote.

"The figures used are the number of deaths recorded by the International Tracing Service on the basis of documents found when the camps were closed"
You lose again.
The Red Cross were that horrified that a few were trying to distort these documents they said issued a statement.
http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/1...1#.VaNB054Vg6Y

[TheDemonLord]

I would imagine that the set-up required to handle the gassing of millions would be a little hard to hide.

Not if say, you disguised the Gas Chambers as a Shower - even going so far as to put fake Faucets in....

In fact there are many well documented instances (from other regimes) of people hiding the methods of execution and Torture.

Such as Taking a Picture, Bed Frames etc.

[Oscar]

You mean the evidence obtained under duress?

You mean the Nuremburg Trials that one of the judges slammed the integrity of?

(Those same trials where many of the witnesses for the Defense were not even permitted to give their evidence).

No, I mean the eyewitness and documentry evidence presented.
Tons and tons of it.


Also - do you have a link for the defense witnesses?

[Oscar]

Stories were circulating as early as mid-1942 of gassings.

Does it not seem strange to you that the Red Cross found no evidence of homicidal gas chambers in any of the inspections that they carried out?

Stories?

It must be true then.

[husaberg]

And how many camps did the Red Cross inspect?
Do you think they inspected all of them?

The sheer weight of evidence from Nuremburg would seem to outweigh one document from the Red Cross.

According to the Red Cross
ICRC denounced Holocaust denial and confirmed that the agency "Never published—or even compiled—statistics of this kind which are being falsely attributed to it" and stated that its mission was "to help war victims, not to count them" and questioned how they would have even been able to obtain such statistics had they wanted to, given that they were "only able to enter only a few concentration camps...in the final days of the war".

The figures cited by the author of the booklet are based upon statistics falsely attributed to us, evidently for the purpose of giving them credibility, despite the fact that we never publish information of this kind.

—Françoise Perret, Comité International de la Croix-Rouge, to Jacob Gerwitz, August 22, 1975.

[husaberg]

Stories?

It must be true then.

What about Goebbles Dairy
In his personal diary he writes:

“ February 14, 1942: The Führer once again expressed his determination to clean up the Jews in Europe pitilessly. There must be no squeamish sentimentalism about it. The Jews have deserved the catastrophe that has now overtaken them. Their destruction will go hand in hand with the destruction of our enemies. We must hasten this process with cold ruthlessness. ”

In March 13, 1945, Goebbels wrote in his diary that the "rest of the world" should follow Germany's example in "destroying the jews", he writes also about how the jews in Germany at that point had been almost totally destroyed. This diary contains numerous other references to the mass extermination of Jews, including how "tens of thousands of them are liquidated" in eastern occupied territory, and that "the greater the number of Jews liquidated, the more consolidated will the situation in Europe be after this war."

[mashman]

Bullshit.
A theory should be based on accepted facts and general principles, not something you pulled out of your arse to be a big man

Yet you discredit information based on source? Tsk, tsk. If source is on the list, then the outcome can be bought. There is more than enough evidence of such practice having existed for thousands of years. Your accepted facts and general principles have been set by proven murdering liars and thieves. I think you should question your own source before throwing your weight around like a pious wanker with no evidence other than what some supposed "authority" has fed you as a measure to use for judging what facts and general principles are.

[Brian d marge]

Yet you discredit information based on source? Tsk, tsk. If source is on the list, then the outcome can be bought. There is more than enough evidence of such practice having existed for thousands of years. Your accepted facts and general principles have been set by proven murdering liars and thieves. I think you should question your own source before throwing your weight around like a pious wanker with no evidence other than what some supposed "authority" has fed you as a measure to use for judging what facts and general principles are.

Hey go easy on Ozca he just learnt to cut and paste

Not withstanding that particular issue had be put to rest 200 pages ago

He should be encouraged as the experience must be quite daunting

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