The fascist regime that made you a moron: Thanks dJonkey

[husaberg]

Yes to the pattern the same names iver and over

And I agree greece needs to leave the eu

By the way which bank financed greece to be come independent ? Around the turn of the century

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The pattern that you are over looking is Greece chose to do all these things. They made some bad choices.

[mashman]

Funny I thought it was the Greeks lazy lifestyle and their sport of evading tax including not declaring earnings. Something like 85% of all declared business earnings are for debt servicing, with a lot of businesses over 100%.

Business... an exceptionally good vehicle for legally keeping one's own money . Ya makes yer bed... although I don't for a minute believe that the majority of Greece has a business, let alone can afford an accountant... so lazy lifestyle is a tad harsh, no?... and as such blaming Greece is piss poor form imho.

Of course not, it went to pay off the people who had already loaned them money.
I realize economics isn't your strong point, but please try to comprehend what is happening.

It did. I'll assume that you skipped the class where they say you need money to grow an economy... coz it's kind of important if you want people to work and produce worth. Ya makes yer bed and then gets hoisted by your own retard... always amusing.

I understand economics fine well thanks. It really is an easy subject... little more than risk management using the statistical methodology du jour to predict the best way to suck as much money out of an economy without being noticed as is humanly, digitally these days, possible. When you're ready to think deeper than my scrotum juice in a frisbee, lemme know.

[mashman]

Stephen even if all of this was true they signed the deal they juggled the figures they never made the reforms they never met the payments can you see the pattern here.

Yeah... every time someone gets in debt they print more debt baring money and pretend that somehow the world will run a positive balance. Shut the full cup.

[mashman]

Ps , both lender and borrow enter the contract the onus of responsibility is 50/50Attachment 313709

The guy got it wrong... Tsakaloto was leaving and had crossed off the option he went with .

[husaberg]

Yeah... every time someone gets in debt they print more debt baring money and pretend that somehow the world will run a positive balance. Shut the full cup.

Look at your first sentence the solution is self evident.
Every time someone gets in debt..................

[Oscar]

The pattern that you are over looking is Greece chose to do all these things. They made some bad choices.

He cannot accept that these people did this of their own violation.
He much prefers the fairy story where the big, bad banker put the people of Greece in this position by….what?

Selling them magic beans?

Putting a magic potion in the water?

The fact is that successive Greek Governments pandered to their citizens on a breath-taking scale and those citizens were happy to accept that largesse. Even now, the inability of a large part of Greece’s population to accept that they did this to themselves is simply amazing. They mortgaged the family silver so as to sun themselves in idleness whilst drinking more raki…


And before you left wing wackos start talking about this happening to NZ - we have an average (of the CIA/IMF figures) public debt to GDP ratio of 34% (in 2012).
Greece's figure is 158% and growing...

[Oscar]

Yeah... every time someone gets in debt they print more debt baring money and pretend that somehow the world will run a positive balance. Shut the full cup.

Who prints more money?
The Greeks? They can't.
The EU? Why would they?

[Brian d marge]

He cannot accept that these people did this of their own violation.
He much prefers the fairy story where the big, bad banker put the people of Greece in this position by….what?

Selling them magic beans?

Putting a magic potion in the water?

The fact is that successive Greek Governments pandered to their citizens on a breath-taking scale and those citizens were happy to accept that largesse. Even now, the inability of a large part of Greece’s population to accept that they did this to themselves is simply amazing. They mortgaged the family silver so as to sun themselves in idleness whilst drinking more raki…


And before you left wing wackos start talking about this happening to NZ - we have an average (of the CIA/IMF figures) public debt to GDP ratio of 34% (in 2012).
Greece's figure is 158% and growing...

True to form


Hey Oz

Have a bridge in auckland


U interested

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[Oscar]

Business... an exceptionally good vehicle for legally keeping one's own money . Ya makes yer bed... although I don't for a minute believe that the majority of Greece has a business, let alone can afford an accountant... so lazy lifestyle is a tad harsh, no?... and as such blaming Greece is piss poor form imho.

Why?
Coz you say so?

Do you know anything about the Greek economy?
What was the age of entitlement for Superannuation?

[husaberg]

He cannot accept that these people did this of their own violation.
He much prefers the fairy story where the big, bad banker put the people of Greece in this position by….what?

Selling them magic beans?

Putting a magic potion in the water?

The fact is that successive Greek Governments pandered to their citizens on a breath-taking scale and those citizens were happy to accept that largesse. Even now, the inability of a large part of Greece’s population to accept that they did this to themselves is simply amazing. They mortgaged the family silver so as to sun themselves in idleness whilst drinking more raki…


And before you left wing wackos start talking about this happening to NZ - we have an average (of the CIA/IMF figures) public debt to GDP ratio of 34% (in 2012).
Greece's figure is 158% and growing...

I agree with all of what you say but remember our current government is borrowing more and more money all the time. While claiming fiscal responsibility yet they criticized the last government for trying to balance the debt by not doing tax cuts.

[Oscar]

True to form


Hey Oz

Have a bridge in auckland


U interested

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And true to form, you say absolutely nothing.

[mashman]

Look at your first sentence the solution is self evident.
Every time someone gets in debt..................

You're right... get rid of money and there will never be debt again.

[mashman]

Who prints more money?
The Greeks? They can't.
The EU? Why would they?

And true to form, you say absolutely nothing.

Hoisted by your own you. Chur

[Oscar]

I agree with all of what you say but remember our current government is borrowing more and more money all the time. While claiming fiscal responsibility yet they criticized the last government for trying to balance the debt by not doing tax cuts.

I agree with that.
But for anyone to compare the scale of our borrowing to Greece's is mental.

And to be honest, although I have been known to whinge about the amount of tax that we pay, I would be happy to go back to pre JK levels if it 1) was invested in schools and hospitals and 2) paid down debt (in that order).

[Woodman]

Business... an exceptionally good vehicle for legally keeping one's own money . Ya makes yer bed... although I don't for a minute believe that the majority of Greece has a business, let alone can afford an accountant... so lazy lifestyle is a tad harsh, no?... and as such blaming Greece is piss poor form imho.

Ah ok, lets blame Fiji then