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    Nestlé CEO Peter Brabeck: “Access to water should not be a public right.”

    What's more he thinks that to think otherwise is an extremist position to have. Guys like this are the reason the world is fucked. Cunts like this anger me BIG TIME! and they weild power

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    Nah, he is just a symptom. Over population is the problem. Unless you eliminate a few billion people, you're wasting your time even discussing the environment etc.

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    I believe that one of the south American countries has had to sell their own water resources to an American co. ( American?? suprise suprise!), as part of either an IMF or world bank bail out. If I am right about the IMF, it is controlled by American financial interests.

    This would be right up Dohnkeys alley. I used to be pro business once, but more and more I see international companies ( and govts) moving from development and improving lives to outright greed.

    He thinks that by business controlling the basic commodities of life, they can solve all the worlds problems.

    This Nestle CEO needs to go and spend a year working in a 3rd world country.
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    Is it the access to water ... or the free access to water you refer to .. ??
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    Quote Originally Posted by imdying View Post
    Nah, he is just a symptom. Over population is the problem. Unless you eliminate a few billion people, you're wasting your time even discussing the environment etc.
    So best not to bother trying then? Oddly enough water doesn't just disappear as it always returns somewhere.

    Quote Originally Posted by awa355 View Post
    I believe that one of the south American countries has had to sell their own water resources to an American co. ( American?? suprise suprise!), as part of either an IMF or world bank bail out. If I am right about the IMF, it is controlled by American financial interests.

    This would be right up Dohnkeys alley. I used to be pro business once, but more and more I see international companies ( and govts) moving from development and improving lives to outright greed.

    He thinks that by business controlling the basic commodities of life, they can solve all the worlds problems.

    This Nestle CEO needs to go and spend a year working in a 3rd world country.
    Bolivia I believe. Saw an interesting doco on Nat Geo (what seems like) 10 or so years ago, certainly before I came to NZ. Pretty disturbing. People risk their freedom by digging up the pipe that literally crosses under their yard to tap (no pun) into it to so that the village can get access to free water.

    Quote Originally Posted by FJRider View Post
    Is it the access to water ... or the free access to water you refer to .. ??
    Both... but the CEO is talking about the foodstuff, the actual water. Isn't it illegal to collect rain water somewhere in the world?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mashman View Post
    What's more he thinks that to think otherwise is an extremist position to have. Guys like this are the reason the world is fucked. Cunts like this anger me BIG TIME! and they weild power
    Seems like a perfectly sane guy to me. Gives his thoughts and his reasons for having them.

    The world isn't fucked.. your world is fucked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by carbonhed View Post
    Seems like a perfectly sane guy to me. Gives his thoughts and his reasons for having them.

    The world isn't fucked.. your world is fucked.
    I didn't say he wasn't sane, but I do question his motivation. He's wrong though.

    Yours is too... but you can choose to ignore it as you have done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by imdying View Post
    Nah, he is just a symptom. Over population is the problem. Unless you eliminate a few billion people, you're wasting your time even discussing the environment etc.
    Where will you start the elimination process?
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    No this guy is the problem, the prevailing attitude, that everything has a price, and if one really needs it one will pay anything for it. Human rights don't exist. Better get used to it.

    He could of course advocate better usage of water, better water collection etc, bette irigation system and other measures, but that would probably not enhance the bottom line for the Nestle Share holders.

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    Official U.S. Government News References:

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    http://droughtmonitor.unl.edu/new.html
    http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/index.php
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    Now we have just had a bit of a drought here in gods own country, but worldwide water shortages are going to affect us all, mainly with increases in food production. So food will go up, waterprices will go up, wastewater cost will go up......oops we are going to have a problem houston.

    What we need is more dairy farms in this country, so that when we run out of water we will drink Milk......tui!
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    Quote Originally Posted by mashman View Post
    =. Isn't it illegal to collect rain water somewhere in the world?
    Several US states, for a start: http://offgridsurvival.com/rainwaterillegal/
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    Quote Originally Posted by mashman View Post
    Both... but the CEO is talking about the foodstuff, the actual water. Isn't it illegal to collect rain water somewhere in the world?
    Access to water is not always freely available in New Zealand now. Water rights with a property are a selling feature. The amount of water available with those water rights are not always guaranteed.

    The quality of the rain water is an issue in many places ... and not just in 3rd world countries.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pete376403 View Post
    Several US states, for a start: http://offgridsurvival.com/rainwaterillegal/
    9 states eh. And those collecting rainwater are the criminals .
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    Quote Originally Posted by FJRider View Post
    Access to water is not always freely available in New Zealand now. Water rights with a property are a selling feature. The amount of water available with those water rights are not always guaranteed.

    The quality of the rain water is an issue in many places ... and not just in 3rd world countries.
    Ugh. Tres disappointing.

    Is that the quality of the falling rain? or the quality of the rain water after it has settled on the ground?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mashman View Post
    Ugh. Tres disappointing.

    Is that the quality of the falling rain? or the quality of the rain water after it has settled on the ground?
    Google "Acid Rain" ...

    I've been in plenty of places that you cant drink the tap water without treating/boiling it to prevent sickness.

    Access to (enough) water for the purpose you/they need is a contentious issue now. This is highlighted in drought stricken areas ... and not just applicable in city/metropolitan areas ...

    In any business ... water is already a budgeted commodity ... with supply in some areas not guaranteed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by carbonhed View Post
    Seems like a perfectly sane guy to me. Gives his thoughts and his reasons for having them.
    Yes agreed. Maybe Mashie meant another video.

    We already price water. Some cities have water meters and bill you. And if they don't, they have reservoirs, vast networks of water pipes and pumping stations, all of which are paid for through local body rates.

    The only people who have "free" water are those with rain collection systems or bores. Even that isn't free because tanks rust or crack, pipes get blocked, pumps burn out.

    Personally I think water is a "public good" and disagree with the Nestle guy but he's correct that it isn't free and we'd be more careful if we understood that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winston001 View Post
    The only people who have "free" water are those with rain collection systems or bores. Even that isn't free because tanks rust or crack, pipes get blocked, pumps burn out.

    Personally I think water is a "public good" and disagree with the Nestle guy but he's correct that it isn't free and we'd be more careful if we understood that.
    I worked in the irrigation business for nine years ... and in all cases it was a case of making better and more effective use of what they had ... that made the bigger effect on it's use.

    The hue and cry when water meters were installed in Central Otago has not died down yet. Metered water is not just a big city issue.

    The attitude that "we always had access to water, so we always should be able to" is not going to be accepted ... as of right.

    Those with bore supply (in some areas) are now facing (or already have) restrictions on how much water they are allowed.
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