ANZACs and war and stuff

[Hinny]

no no NO.
This thread is done. Let it go.

Nah, can't let it go.

Sheeple like Ed still believe the 'official' 911 story which despite his protestations has been shown to be bunkum.
That people of his ilk don't see anything wrong with the Govt. refusing to be questioned on this, refuse to show evidence such as the cctv footage of the alleged hijackers getting on any of the planes, refuse to show the security camera footage of the 'plane' hitting the Pentagon.
Any of these things would quash rumours from the 'conspiracy believers'.
On and on it goes and clowns accept that the govt wouldn't lie to them.
That their story is the truth and what really happened even though common sense tells you that Scotty of Startrek was right and "You canny change the laws of physics Jim".

The Sheeple believed the lie that the North Vietnamese had seized a US warship the 'Pueblo'. Showed photos of it tied up at a North Vietnamese dock.
This led to the loss of 58,000 American lives and who knows how many 'Gooks' as the Vietnamese 'Freedom Fighters' were called.
Another war based on a lie.

They seem to do it all the time\
An exercise being run where an airliner was going to fly into a skyscraper happening at the same time it actually happened.
The British train bombings happening at exactly the same time as they were running an exercise which mirrored actual events.
Forgotten the third one.
The USS 'Vincenes' shooting down the Iranian Commercial airliner - on a regular scheduled flight.
Somehow this led to the bombing of Libya.

Anzacs should not blindly follow the US into their wars.
John Key revealed his mental abilities when he declared NZ would be ready to roar of to North Korea and help the US deal to those madmen.
Along the same lines as declaring NZ was missing in action in the invasion of Iraq. Even tho' Jenny Shipley had sent troops to the illegal covert war being waged by the US.
Like the sending our tax dollars to the rebels in Libya. The same type of crimes that Charles Taylor was recently convicted of in the Hague.
Do we want to have future Anzac parades to celebrate the sacrifice of our young men and women, if they are to be sent off to kill and be killed, by elected representatives.
Our current and recent leader have acted without regard to the law.
Should we allow War criminals to go unpunished?

[Edbear]

Nah, can't let it go.

Sheeple like Ed still believe the 'official' 911 story which despite his protestations has been shown to be bunkum.
That people of his ilk don't see anything wrong with the Govt. refusing to be questioned on this, refuse to show evidence such as the cctv footage of the alleged hijackers getting on any of the planes, refuse to show the security camera footage of the 'plane' hitting the Pentagon.
Any of these things would quash rumours from the 'conspiracy believers'.
On and on it goes and clowns accept that the govt wouldn't lie to them.
That their story is the truth and what really happened even though common sense tells you that Scotty of Startrek was right and "You canny change the laws of physics Jim".

The Sheeple believed the lie that the North Vietnamese had seized a US warship the 'Pueblo'. Showed photos of it tied up at a North Vietnamese dock.
This led to the loss of 58,000 American lives and who knows how many 'Gooks' as the Vietnamese 'Freedom Fighters' were called.
Another war based on a lie.

They seem to do it all the time\
An exercise being run where an airliner was going to fly into a skyscraper happening at the same time it actually happened.
The British train bombings happening at exactly the same time as they were running an exercise which mirrored actual events.
Forgotten the third one.
The USS 'Vincenes' shooting down the Iranian Commercial airliner - on a regular scheduled flight.
Somehow this led to the bombing of Libya.

Anzacs should not blindly follow the US into their wars.
John Key revealed his mental abilities when he declared NZ would be ready to roar of to North Korea and help the US deal to those madmen.
Along the same lines as declaring NZ was missing in action in the invasion of Iraq. Even tho' Jenny Shipley had sent troops to the illegal covert war being waged by the US.
Like the sending our tax dollars to the rebels in Libya. The same type of crimes that Charles Taylor was recently convicted of in the Hague.
Do we want to have future Anzac parades to celebrate the sacrifice of our young men and women, if they are to be sent off to kill and be killed, by elected representatives.
Our current and recent leader have acted without regard to the law.
Should we allow War criminals to go unpunished?

Oh look! Another conspiracy theorist!

[SPman]

Anzacs should not blindly follow the US into their wars.

Hey - the Israeli Airforce bombed and strafed a US Navy spy ship, the USS Liberty, off the Sinai coast in 1967 - unfortunately for them, they didn't sink it so there were survivors - despite several strafing runs on people in the water - the US didn't go to war with Israel..........http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident

[mashman]

Hey - the Israeli Airforce bombed and strafed a US Navy spy ship, the USS Liberty, off the Sinai coast in 1967 - unfortunately for them, they didn't sink it so there were survivors - despite several strafing runs on people in the water - the US didn't go to war with Israel..........http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident

Insurance job?

[Akzle]

Insurance job?

insurance=money=jew shit.

so yes. it was. (read up on the jew that took out terrorist insurance on the TTs, and how the courts screwed him by only paying out 4 billion more than the towers were worth (he wanted five billion )- they were also full of asbestos which co$ts to remove...and how 90% of jews conviniently took the day off, that day.

add that it was all over scanners, that they (government) were doing a controlled demolition on building 7. (although the official story remains that it fell over because a plane hit the building 4 blocks away))

[Kickaha]

add that it was all over scanners, that they (government) were doing a controlled demolition on building 7. (although the official story remains that it fell over because a plane hit the building 4 blocks away))

http://www.debunking911.com/pull.htm

[mashman]

insurance=money=jew shit.

so yes. it was. (read up on the jew that took out terrorist insurance on the TTs, and how the courts screwed him by only paying out 4 billion more than the towers were worth (he wanted five billion )- they were also full of asbestos which co$ts to remove...and how 90% of jews conviniently took the day off, that day.

add that it was all over scanners, that they (government) were doing a controlled demolition on building 7. (although the official story remains that it fell over because a plane hit the building 4 blocks away))

I honestly don't care who did it and why. Get rid of the money and it's fuckin pointless to do it at all innit.

[jonbuoy]

Nah, can't let it go.

Sheeple like Ed still believe the 'official' 911 story which despite his protestations has been shown to be bunkum.
That people of his ilk don't see anything wrong with the Govt. refusing to be questioned on this, refuse to show evidence such as the cctv footage of the alleged hijackers getting on any of the planes, refuse to show the security camera footage of the 'plane' hitting the Pentagon.
Any of these things would quash rumours from the 'conspiracy believers'.
On and on it goes and clowns accept that the govt wouldn't lie to them.
That their story is the truth and what really happened even though common sense tells you that Scotty of Startrek was right and "You canny change the laws of physics Jim".

The Sheeple believed the lie that the North Vietnamese had seized a US warship the 'Pueblo'. Showed photos of it tied up at a North Vietnamese dock.
This led to the loss of 58,000 American lives and who knows how many 'Gooks' as the Vietnamese 'Freedom Fighters' were called.
Another war based on a lie.

They seem to do it all the time\
An exercise being run where an airliner was going to fly into a skyscraper happening at the same time it actually happened.
The British train bombings happening at exactly the same time as they were running an exercise which mirrored actual events.
Forgotten the third one.
The USS 'Vincenes' shooting down the Iranian Commercial airliner - on a regular scheduled flight.
Somehow this led to the bombing of Libya.

Anzacs should not blindly follow the US into their wars.
John Key revealed his mental abilities when he declared NZ would be ready to roar of to North Korea and help the US deal to those madmen.
Along the same lines as declaring NZ was missing in action in the invasion of Iraq. Even tho' Jenny Shipley had sent troops to the illegal covert war being waged by the US.
Like the sending our tax dollars to the rebels in Libya. The same type of crimes that Charles Taylor was recently convicted of in the Hague.
Do we want to have future Anzac parades to celebrate the sacrifice of our young men and women, if they are to be sent off to kill and be killed, by elected representatives.
Our current and recent leader have acted without regard to the law.
Should we allow War criminals to go unpunished?

So which part of 911 do you think isn't true?


The planes crashing into the buildings?
The buildings falling down because of the planes crashing into them?
The people who organised the planes crashing into the buildings?

[Akzle]

http://www.debunking911.com/pull.htm

TL: DR. i started. i tried, but i just couldn't stomach the BS.
you also dont address the 5 billion dollar jew-spiracy

I honestly don't care who did it and why. Get rid of the money and it's fuckin pointless to do it at all innit.

innit.

So which part of 911 do you think isn't true?


The planes crashing into the buildings?
The buildings falling down because of the planes crashing into them?
The people who organised the planes crashing into the buildings?

all of the above? why, which do you hink is true?

and consider the 9/11 "commission" report couldn't tell you how 7 fell down, so fucked if i know how all these "anti-conspiracy theorists" can...(there's a lot they didn't explain, W. refused to answer questions without cheney holding his hand (and didn't asnwer any anyway) their funding was coninually cut/not extended when hey wanted to do forensic investigation... etc.)

there was a computer generated model on pootube done up by some engineers showing the "collision" and fairly convincing evidence that it couldn't possibly cause a building to collapse.

bu i don' expect i'll sway any of the sheeple. ignorance is bliss. and o' lawdy, them right pee-pol in that thar noble profession of politics couldn't possibly lie to ya. could they.

[Edbear]

http://www.debunking911.com/pull.htm

I don't expect any conspiracy theorists will even read it...

TL: DR. i started. i tried, but i just couldn't stomach the BS.
you also dont address the 5 billion dollar jew-spiracy

innit.


all of the above? why, which do you hink is true?

and consider the 9/11 "commission" report couldn't tell you how 7 fell down, so fucked if i know how all these "anti-conspiracy theorists" can...(there's a lot they didn't explain, W. refused to answer questions without cheney holding his hand (and didn't asnwer any anyway) their funding was coninually cut/not extended when hey wanted to do forensic investigation... etc.)

there was a computer generated model on pootube done up by some engineers showing the "collision" and fairly convincing evidence that it couldn't possibly cause a building to collapse.

bu i don' expect i'll sway any of the sheeple. ignorance is bliss. and o' lawdy, them right pee-pol in that thar noble profession of politics couldn't possibly lie to ya. could they.

Proof one. You disappoint me Akzle. I would have expected you at least to have looked at all the evidence for and against. I guess it's just easier to sit back and criticise without investigation. Govt. is too easy a target and you go along with the conspiracy theorists on that basis alone.

[jonbuoy]

TL: DR. i started. i tried, but i just couldn't stomach the BS.
you also dont address the 5 billion dollar jew-spiracy

innit.


all of the above? why, which do you hink is true?

and consider the 9/11 "commission" report couldn't tell you how 7 fell down, so fucked if i know how all these "anti-conspiracy theorists" can...(there's a lot they didn't explain, W. refused to answer questions without cheney holding his hand (and didn't asnwer any anyway) their funding was coninually cut/not extended when hey wanted to do forensic investigation... etc.)

there was a computer generated model on pootube done up by some engineers showing the "collision" and fairly convincing evidence that it couldn't possibly cause a building to collapse.

bu i don' expect i'll sway any of the sheeple. ignorance is bliss. and o' lawdy, them right pee-pol in that thar noble profession of politics couldn't possibly lie to ya. could they.

The only things we can 100% know is that planes did crash into the twin towers, the twin towers did collapse.

If it was government planned did they calculate that those planes weren't enough to bring down the building and extra explosives were needed? Why not blame the terrorists for the bombs as well?

[Edbear]

The only things we can 100% know is that planes did crash into the twin towers, the twin towers did collapse.

If it was government planned did they calculate that those planes weren't enough to bring down the building and extra explosives were needed? Why not blame the terrorists for the bombs as well?

Hey, what's with the hard questions? You'll confuse them!

Here's another question... Is it only the conspiracy theorists who will tell the truth? Of course you can only trust the word of a conspiracy theorist, they would never lie or cover the truth or tell half-truths leaving out crucial evidence, would they..?

Note how they dismiss, refuse to read or otherwise scoff at any person or evidence from wherever it comes that disagrees with them? Always talking about Govt. conspiracies without mentioning that the link above, for example was NOT from Govt. sources. It was not the words of politicians either but Firemen in the main.

[Hinny]

The only things we can 100% know is that planes did crash into the twin towers, the twin towers did collapse.

If it was government planned did they calculate that those planes weren't enough to bring down the building and extra explosives were needed? Why not blame the terrorists for the bombs as well?

We don't, according to many, know that planes hit the buildings.
One has to suspend belief in all we have learnt to imagine that an Aluminium plane could penetrate the outer web of steel, go through the building taking out 20% of the internal supporting structure and come out the through the other web of steel largely intact!

You do have to ask why the secrecy?- why the cover up?

Certainly the missile theories concerning the destruction at the Pentagon could be silenced by simply showing all of the video of an aeroplane hitting the building not just 5 or 6 frames which explain nothing. Isn't that reasonable, sensible, logical?

There have been plenty of theories proposed.
There are plenty theories attempting to debunk the former.
All of the debunking theories have in turn been debunked as far as I am aware. - Most it seems needed one to suspend belief in the laws of physics.

Here is a question for the 'Believers': how did thousands of tons of steel turn into dust?
Remember these were mostly steel buildings; not just steel reinforced concrete.
Pancake theory (the official line) certainly doesn't explain that situation.

[Katman]

Note how they dismiss, refuse to read or otherwise scoff at any person or evidence from wherever it comes that disagrees with them? Always talking about Govt. conspiracies without mentioning that the link above, for example was NOT from Govt. sources. It was not the words of politicians either but Firemen in the main.

Really Ed?

Have a read of the page entitled 'Government Planning' on that link.

Hardly reads like a scientific review that's taking the subject matter seriously.

[Edbear]

We don't, according to many, know that planes hit the buildings.
One has to suspend belief in all we have learnt to imagine that an Aluminium plane could penetrate the outer web of steel, go through the building taking out 20% of the internal supporting structure and come out the through the other web of steel largely intact!

You do have to ask why the secrecy?- why the cover up?

Certainly the missile theories concerning the destruction at the Pentagon could be silenced by simply showing all of the video of an aeroplane hitting the building not just 5 or 6 frames which explain nothing. Isn't that reasonable, sensible, logical?

There have been plenty of theories proposed.
There are plenty theories attempting to debunk the former.
All of the debunking theories have in turn been debunked as far as I am aware. - Most it seems needed one to suspend belief in the laws of physics.

Here is a question for the 'Believers': how did thousands of tons of steel turn into dust?
Remember these were mostly steel buildings; not just steel reinforced concrete.
Pancake theory (the official line) certainly doesn't explain that situation.

Are you actually serious or just a massive Troll?