ANZACs and war and stuff

**Katman** · 23rd May 2013, 10:35

Originally Posted by Edbear

It's only the conspiracy theorists who are wide awake taking note and endeavouring to keep us safe from these powerful behind the scenes manipulators. Everyone else is a blind, malleable and easily lead supporter of their respective governments.

If you say so Ed.

**Paul in NZ** · 23rd May 2013, 10:42

What blows me into the weeds is the suspicion of all elected governments everywhere despite evidence and most silly ideas eventually get exposed no matter what YET the conspiracy theorists ignore the corporations that literally kill millions pushing their shit down peoples thoats.

Tobacco, big oil, food companies, alcohol - you name it these guys have hoodwinked billions with their claims over the decades. Deaths at 911 was a drop in the bucket compared to any one of those examples and it was mostly done in full view and for money alone....

Government? Nah - those guys are safe as houses compared to the big corporations

**Edbear** · 23rd May 2013, 10:54

Originally Posted by Paul in NZ

What blows me into the weeds is the suspicion of all elected governments everywhere despite evidence and most silly ideas eventually get exposed no matter what YET the conspiracy theorists ignore the corporations that literally kill millions pushing their shit down peoples thoats.

Tobacco, big oil, food companies, alcohol - you name it these guys have hoodwinked billions with their claims over the decades. Deaths at 911 was a drop in the bucket compared to any one of those examples and it was mostly done in full view and for money alone....

Government? Nah - those guys are safe as houses compared to the big corporations

Yeah, funny that... They keep bleating on about the manipulators behind the scenes and that the majority of the populace is brainwashed or duped, or ignorant. Can't point to any credible evidence let alone any particular person(s) though, never have and never will. They never accept any proof contrary either, no matter how well established it is.

Witness them in this thread completely and consistently overlooking, dismissing and ignoring any such evidence.

That's why I have given up, those with a brain cell or two understand clearly and have shown so, the idiots never will.

**Katman** · 23rd May 2013, 10:56

Originally Posted by Paul in NZ

.....the suspicion of all elected governments everywhere.....

Come on Paul, I thought your reading skills would be better than that.

Where has anyone said that "all elected governments everywhere" are shady?

I'm sure there's a great number of honest politicians around the world who would take great offense to that suggestion.

Perhaps you just used those words for some cheap sensationalism.

**Paul in NZ** · 23rd May 2013, 12:21

Originally Posted by Katman

Perhaps you just used those words for some cheap sensationalism.

Cheap sensationalisim in THIS thread??? Well I never.....

Actually I think 99% of politicians are honest when they start out! My points still valid - governments are usually reasonably straight up - even when they aren't. Corporations on the other hand owe no loyalty to any country.

**Banditbandit** · 23rd May 2013, 12:26

Originally Posted by Katman

However much you might not like the idea it's a fact that many governments find fear to be a useful tool in controlling the masses.

Yes - totally agree

Originally Posted by scumdog

Hmmm..well they failed here.

Yes. That's because as a police officer you are one of the tools that the state uses to scare its citizens ...

**Edbear** · 23rd May 2013, 12:28

While it is no doubt true that some people in authority may be keen to absolve themselves of any failure on their part, the actual, verifiable facts about 9/11 are crystal clear and irrefutable.

9/11

http://www.structuremag.org/Archives...sanz-Nov07.pdf
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011...ories-debunked
http://www.popularmechanics.com/tech...y/news/1227842
http://www.popularmechanics.com/tech...y/news/4220721
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tacYjsS-g6k
http://rense.com/general32/phot.htm
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...in-Towers.html

Now wait for the idiots to ignore or blithly dismiss the links. We seem to be down to only one pro-conspiracy idiot now anyway.

**Banditbandit** · 23rd May 2013, 12:29

Originally Posted by Edbear

Funny how nobody on KB belongs to these cowed, fearful, ignorant masses that are mind controlled by this shadowy group manipulating the politicians...

Yeah ??? Just watch the cowed and scared masses' brake lights come on when a white car with blue and yellow stripes comes along ...

**scumdog** · 23rd May 2013, 12:31

Originally Posted by Banditbandit

Yes - totally agree

Yes. That's because as a police officer you are one of the tools that the state uses to scare its citizens ...

Well they failed here - the whole of my life.

And I wasn't 'a tool of the state' for my whole life...unless a baby/schoolboy/freezing worker also constitute one

**mashman** · 23rd May 2013, 12:44

Originally Posted by Paul in NZ

Government? Nah - those guys are safe as houses compared to the big corporations

Despite the fact that they're supposed to be the first line of defense against the corporations, it makes them as safe as a non mortared brick house sitting in a subduction zone.

**Edbear** · 23rd May 2013, 13:03

Originally Posted by Banditbandit

Yes - totally agree

Yes. That's because as a police officer you are one of the tools that the state uses to scare its citizens ...

I have met Scummy, the citizens should be scared...

**Oscar** · 23rd May 2013, 13:17

Originally Posted by Edbear

While it is no doubt true that some people in authority may be keen to absolve themselves of any failure on their part, the actual, verifiable facts about 9/11 are crystal clear and irrefutable.

9/11

http://www.structuremag.org/Archives...sanz-Nov07.pdf
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011...ories-debunked
http://www.popularmechanics.com/tech...y/news/1227842
http://www.popularmechanics.com/tech...y/news/4220721
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tacYjsS-g6k
http://rense.com/general32/phot.htm
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...in-Towers.html

Now wait for the idiots to ignore or blithly dismiss the links. We seem to be down to only one pro-conspiracy idiot now anyway.

You're almost certainly wasting your time.
These people are trying to say that a Government that couldn't keep a secret about their Prez getting a blow job in the Oval Office are somehow capable of a multi level conspiracy involving multiple branches of Govt and thousands of people...

**Katman** · 23rd May 2013, 13:49

Originally Posted by Edbear

Now wait for the idiots to ignore or blithly dismiss the links.

Here you go Ed. Plenty more articles for you to read.

http://www.911truth.org/?page=1

(Note at the top that there are 179 pages with 2678 articles. Should keep you going for a while).

**Edbear** · 23rd May 2013, 13:52

Originally Posted by Katman

Here you go Ed. Plenty more articles for you to read.

http://www.911truth.org/?page=1

(Note at the top that there are 179 pages with 2678 articles. Should keep you going for a while).

As I was saying...