ANZACs and war and stuff

[Oscar]

That the failure of a single column could bring WTC7 down in a uniform pattern at free fall speed is a rather large assumption.

As opposed to an elaborate conspiracy involving flying TWO aircraft into WTC 1 & 2, and then demolishing three buildings with controlled charges and all the while pretending that it was a terrorist attack?!!!


You're funny.

[Oscar]

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[Katman]

As opposed to an elaborate conspiracy involving flying TWO aircraft into WTC 1 & 2, and then demolishing three buildings with controlled charges and all the while pretending that it was a terrorist attack?!!!


You're funny.

It's not that far fetched really.

Operation Northwoods proved that the American government will consider some pretty radical ideas if they want to go to war badly enough.

[Oscar]

It's not that far fetched really.

Come on, you're kidding, ain't you?



If you were going to carry off the plan that you're hinting at, why confuse the issue with hijacked planes?
Just blow the buildings up and blame it on terrorists.

You might also want to explain why the US Govt. would kill so many people, in so many different buildings, when one well placed bomb would have achieved...what?
An un-winable war in Afghanistan?


Also, the US Security Services are currently leaking like a sieve - where is the smoking gun?

[mashman]

Come on, you're kidding, ain't you?

If you were going to carry off the plan that you're hinting at, why confuse the issue with hijacked planes?
Just blow the buildings up and blame it on terrorists.

You might also want to explain why the US Govt. would kill so many people, in so many different buildings, when one well placed bomb would have achieved...what?

As an excuse to implement TSA, retinal scanning, inboard air marshals, access to airline data etc... (pretty pointless without aircraft involved) Then again, no govt or institution would slump that low and indulge themselves in such barbaric behaviour, irrespective of their history

[Katman]

If you were going to carry off the plan that you're hinting at, why confuse the issue with hijacked planes?

Flying planes into buildings is a far greater spectacle to galvanise public opinion towards a cause.

Besides, I'm not necessarily suggesting that the American government planned the event, merely that they are appearing to have been complicit to the fact.

[Oscar]

As an excuse to implement TSA, retinal scanning, inboard air marshals, access to airline data etc... (pretty pointless without aircraft involved) Then again, no govt or institution would slump that low and indulge themselves in such barbaric behaviour, irrespective of their history

Ahh, the brains of the outfit has arrived.

You say 9/11 was an excuse to implement barbaric behaviour, yet your link says that this has been going on since 1840.
Try again...

[Oscar]

Flying planes into buildings is a far greater spectacle to galvanise public opinion towards a cause.

Besides, I'm not necessarily suggesting that the American government planned the event, merely that they are appearing to have been complicit to the fact.

Complicit?
How?

There is simply no hard evidence beyond supposition like that surrounding the fate of WTC7.

You have yet to satisfy Occam.

[mashman]

Ahh, the brains of the outfit has arrived.

You say 9/11 was an excuse to implement barbaric behaviour, yet your link says that this has been going on since 1840.
Try again...

You said "Come on, you're kidding, ain't you?" in response to "It's not that far fetched really.", I was merely showing you that this sort of act would not be far fetched given past behaviour. And in response as to why not just bomb the buildings, I gave you the TSA etc... But please don't let me stop you making yet another story up... as always, it's entertaining.
Try again.

[Katman]

The cockpit door was never opened. So how do you account for the voices on the cockpit voice recorder? The cellphone calls by passengers?

On 9/11 Ted Olson held a press conference stating that he'd had a number of phone conversations with his wife who was on Flight 77.

In 2006 though the FBI claimed that there were never any phone conversations between them on that day.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/ted-ols...l-denials/8514

Sounds odd to me.

[Katman]

Nope. That parameter wasn't installed on that model Boeing.

Link please?

[Oscar]

Link please?

A potentially explosive claim made by one conspiracy site is that the cockpit door on American 77, the flight that hit the Pentagon, was monitored on the flight data recorder and that this data showed the door was never opened. The site claims that the FDR data was obtained from the NTSB under the Freedom of Information Act and that the cockpit door parameter shows that the door did not open in flight. The site claims that this information was discovered eight years after the fact by an Australian researcher.

This claim cannot be closely examined because the link on the site’s page that purports to allow a download of the FDR data is a dead link. As a professional pilot, I can say that it is unlikely that the cockpit door was monitored on the FDR. Prior to 9/11, cockpit doors were not hardened as they are today and it is unlikely that they were monitored.

http://www.examiner.com/article/more...and-building-7

http://www.911myths.com/index.php/The_Cockpit_Door

[Oscar]

On 9/11 Ted Olson held a press conference stating that he'd had a number of phone conversations with his wife who was on Flight 77.

In 2006 though the FBI claimed that there were never any phone conversations between them on that day.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/ted-ols...l-denials/8514

Sounds odd to me.

So the inability of an Old Man to recall a telephone conversation five years after the event is a pointer to conspiracy?

[Oscar]

You said "Come on, you're kidding, ain't you?" in response to "It's not that far fetched really.", I was merely showing you that this sort of act would not be far fetched given past behaviour. And in response as to why not just bomb the buildings, I gave you the TSA etc... But please don't let me stop you making yet another story up... as always, it's entertaining.
Try again.

If you have any proof of your claims, feel free to post them.
In the meantime, you're saying that I'm making stories up because I don't relive a far fetched conspiracy theory.
You and logic are rarely in the same nieghbourhood...

[Katman]

So the inability of an Old Man to recall a telephone conversation five years after the event is a pointer to conspiracy?

He supposedly held the press conference on the same day as the attack.