ANZACs and war and stuff

[GCSB Thought Police]

I'm talking about the nature of the collapse of the South Tower - not the nature of it's construction.

I would advise you, for a second time, to drop this line of enquiry.

[Hinny]

You have so much shit in your head you don't know what to think.
You forgot to mention Korea, Vietnam, Somalia, JFKs assasination etc in your little diatribe.

Is there anything in that post that is not true?

And as you should know the invasion of Vietnam was sold on a lie.
The Pueblo was not captured by the North Vietnamese.
The photographs they showed as proof were not of the ship tied up at a North Vietnamese wharf.

In case you couldn't decide on the veracity of the footage showing the fighter flying into the WTC tower I think it is fairly safe to assume that it was fake.
Much like my take on the footage showing the aircraft coming out the other side of the tower - like through a curtain wall of glass. seemingly undamaged.
Not what you would imagine you would see after it had just gone through two external webs of special super strength steel - 18" wide windows framed by box section columns - Steel like in a tank.
I think that looks fishy and you say it merely shows I'm full of shit ... errm... "that does not compute".

[Katman]

According to USA Today the fire wasn't a cool fire at all. They state it burned at 2000 degrees.
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/graph...apse/flash.htm

Interesting that the animation they show of the South Tower collapse doesn't equate to what the actual video footage of the collapse shows.

The top section actually started to topple out towards the south west corner.

[Hinny]

You have so much shit in your head you don't know what to think.

Oh! and here I was thinking I was a qualified professional gentleman, free of mental illness diving into this hotbed of neurosis and psychosis for a bit of entertainment.
Now I see that I'm getting infotainment. - also getting information concerning my biological plumbing.
The age of enlightenment lives.

[Hinny]

Interesting that the animation they show of the South Tower collapse doesn't equate to what the actual video footage of the collapse shows.

The top section actually started to topple out towards the south west corner.

I posted that to put in the pile with the other debunked theories.
See if nobody had ever questioned the stories surrounding these events we would have never known that was not true.
Shows it is good to have intellectual curiosity.

[Katman]

See if nobody had ever questioned the stories surrounding these events we would have never known that was not true.
Shows it is good to have intellectual curiosity.

And it's shocking just how many people might watch that animation and say "Ah, so that's how it happened".

When in actual fact, it didn't happen like that.

There seems to be such a culture of believing everything one's told via official sources these days - without actually questioning what you're being told.

[mashman]

I have - I was trying to end the pain.
PS: New Conspiracy alert for you Katman - the US govt staged the Canterbury earthquake just so the American insurance industry could come back to us this year and put our prices up.

That has already been covered. You didn't read the entire thread did you

[superjackal]

Has always been important to me. As a child I attended comemorations as a Girl Guide and then as a player in a Brass Band. Have not missed very many services over the years to be fair. Perhaps when my babies were new, sleep won over from dawn parade. Once they were old enough to appreciate what was going on I took them along.

I still play Last Post every year, a little way I can put something back into my community. Sadly most of the oldies are no longer with us, I have played at a few funerals over the years too.

My continuing involvement stems mostly from a genuine respect for the young men that defended our freedom all those years ago. If you ever get time stop and have a read of small towm war memorials, very sobering indeed. The other thing though is to remember what happened and to make a renewed committment to make sure it never happens again.

I have 3 adult kids. One never misses a dawn parade, one that will attend sometimes and one that doesn't. Each to their own.

We will remember them...

Don't worry - the Greens will save us all!

[Kickaha]

Regarding the collapse of the South Tower, you can see it begins with a collapse at the corner the plane hit.

At that point the whole top section starts to tip over towards that corner.

From a layman's point of view, surely as this was happening, the load bearing down on the opposing corner would have been massively reduced allowing the structure to support it's own weight. A process like that would not be reversible and you would expect the top section to continue toppling out over that south-west corner while the collapse of the north-east corner would stop.

Well apparently all the tall buidings in America are rigged with explosives so in the event of a disaster eg fire, earthquake plane crashing into it they can be bought down in a controlled way and not take out several city blocks when they collapse sideways

I know it's true because I read it on the internet

[Katman]

Well apparently all the tall buidings in America are rigged with explosives so in the event of a disaster eg fire, earthquake plane crashing into it they can be bought down in a controlled way and not take out several city blocks when they collapse sideways

I know it's true because I read it on the internet

Well who would have ever imagined that three buildings could come down in such a controlled manner if not for some external help.

You'd have to be crazy.

[Kickaha]

Well who would have ever imagined that three buildings could come down in such a controlled manner if not for some external help.

The problem is there hasn't really ever been an event like this before or likely to be in the future so there's nothing to compare it to

[Katman]

The problem is there hasn't really ever been an event like this before or likely to be in the future so there's nothing to compare it to

Thank goodness for those constant Laws of Physics.

[Banditbandit]

Thank goodness for SILLY HATS

[oneofsix]

Thank goodness for those constant Laws of Physics.

yeap, and one day people might even fully understand them

[Katman]

yeap, and one day people might even fully understand them

Yes, even a high school Physics teacher was able to teach NIST something.