Read post #341 yet?Originally Posted by Edbear
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Read post #341 yet?
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Hot enough to melt steel?
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http://www.debunking911.com/pull.htm
And this one.
You don't get to be an old dog without learning a few tricks.
Shorai Powersports batteries are very trick!
Anarchic Wild Child
Doesn't have to melt steel ... only has to weaken the bolts that hold the floor so they no longer support one or two floor
.. then the extra weight dropping oto the lower floor caused that to break . adn so on down the building .. getting heavier and heavier as it gets down ..
Firefighters warned about the dangers of the construction used int he towers BEFORE the towerrs collappsed .. I'll go looking for you ..
"So if you meet me, have some sympathy, have some courtesy, have some taste ..."
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http://www.structuremag.org/Archives...sanz-Nov07.pdf
And this one...
You don't get to be an old dog without learning a few tricks.
Shorai Powersports batteries are very trick!
Watchful Old Bird
If my memory from Fire Service days is correct - plastic teaspoon ala maccas and the like burns at 600degrees plus or thereabouts.
(After all plastics are a petro-chemical by product )
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Read post #224 yet?
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Do you know what the melting point of steel is?
http://911review.com/coverup/fantasy/melting.html
Anarchic Wild Child
OK .. here you go .. The WTC was built using these contrustion methods ...
THis one is brief and succinct - it's post-9/11 but relevent ..
http://www.trussid.org/
Note it says ..
From Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collaps...d_Trade_Center .. I've done a bit of a cut and pasteHowever, when exposed to fire presents a great danger to firefighting personnel when those structures are involved in fire conditions. Under these fire and heat conditions the truss systems can weaken and fail, leading to roof or floor collapse. Truss systems in a building are covered by roof and floor decking and in many cases not in view. Fires can go undiscovered long enough to weaken the diagonal member connections in as little as 10 minutes. Failure of one truss jeopardizes the entire floor and/or roof system.
By design, the truss members in floor and roof assemblies will collapse, without warning, after being exposed to heat or flame contact for a very short period of time.
Fireproofing was incorporated in the original construction and more was added after a fire in 1975 that spread to six floors before being extinguished. After the 1993 bombing, inspections found fireproofing to be deficient. The Port Authority was in the process of replacing it, but replacement had been completed on only 18 floors in 1 WTC, including all the floors affected by the aircraft impact and fires, and on 13 floors in 2 WTC, although only three of these floors (77, 78, and 85) were directly affected by the aircraft impact.
The light construction and hollow nature of the structures allowed the jet fuel to penetrate far inside the towers, igniting many large fires simultaneously over a wide area of the impacted floors. The fuel from the planes burned at most for a few minutes, but the contents of the buildings burned over the next hour or hour and a half. It has been suggested that the fires might not have been as centrally positioned, nor as intense, had traditionally heavy high-rise construction been standing in the way of the aircraft. Debris and fuel would likely have remained mostly outside the buildings or concentrated in more peripheral areas away from the building cores, which would then not have become unique failure points. In this scenario, the towers might have stood far longer, perhaps indefinitely. The fires were hot enough to weaken the columns and cause floors to sag, pulling perimeter columns inward and reducing their ability to support the mass of the building above.
As the fires continued to burn, occupants trapped in the upper floors of the South Tower provided information about conditions to 9-1-1 dispatchers. At 9:37 am, an occupant on the 105th floor of the South Tower reported that floors beneath him "in the 90-something floor" had collapsed
As the North Tower collapsed, heavy debris hit 7 World Trade Center, causing damage to the south face of the building and starting fires that continued to burn throughout the afternoon. Structural damage occurred to the southwest corner between Floors 7 and 17 and on the south face between Floor 44 and the roof; other possible structural damage includes a large vertical gash near the center of the south face between Floors 24 and 41. The building was equipped with a sprinkler system, but had many single-point vulnerabilities for failure: the sprinkler system required manual initiation of the electrical fire pumps, rather than being a fully automatic system; the floor-level controls had a single connection to the sprinkler water riser; and the sprinkler system required some power for the fire pump to deliver water. Also, water pressure was low, with little or no water to feed sprinklers.
Some firefighters entered 7 World Trade Center to search the building. They attempted to extinguish small pockets of fire, but low water pressure hindered their efforts. Fires burned into the afternoon on the 11th and 12th floors of 7 World Trade Center, the flames visible on the east side of the building. During the afternoon, fire was also seen on floors 6–10, 13–14, 19–22, and 29–30. In particular, the fires on floors 7 through 9 and 11 through 13 continued to burn out of control during the afternoon.[35] At approximately 2:00 pm, firefighters noticed a bulge in the southwest corner of 7 World Trade Center between the 10th and 13th floors, a sign that the building was unstable and might collapse. During the afternoon, firefighters also heard creaking sounds coming from the building.[37] Around 3:30 pm FDNY Chief Daniel Nigro decided to halt rescue operations, surface removal, and searches along the surface of the debris near 7 World Trade Center and evacuate the area due to concerns for the safety of personnel. At 5:20:33 pm EDT on September 11, 2001, 7 World Trade Center started to collapse, with the crumble of the east mechanical penthouse, while at 5:21:10 pm EDT the entire building collapsed completely.
Now .. there is nothing too hard or too fantastic about any of that is there ?
"So if you meet me, have some sympathy, have some courtesy, have some taste ..."
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And Bandits post above...
So no chance of you accepting any proof to the contrary then.The other conspirators have gone very quiet...
You don't get to be an old dog without learning a few tricks.
Shorai Powersports batteries are very trick!
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Here you go Drew.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGoPqDOxXRs
I'd hazard a guess that every 'expert' on that video is far more qualified to give an opinion than our Ed is.
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You are so thick you even think the links I post are mine! They...are...not...my...opinions...they...are...fr om...qualified...people...
Your bugbear is that I agree with them, not your silly conspirators!
How dumb does one have to be to attack the messenger..?
You don't get to be an old dog without learning a few tricks.
Shorai Powersports batteries are very trick!
Talk shit. Get hit
How the fuck does a thread about Anzac Day end up about 9/11? To much disrespect to our fallen soldiers in this thread too.
Admin please lock
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Right back at ya Ed.You are so thick you even think the links I post are mine! They...are...not...my...opinions...they...are...fr om...qualified...people...
Your bugbear is that I agree with them, not your silly conspirators!
How dumb does one have to be to attack the messenger..?
Aio ki te Aorangi
I didn't think!!! I experimented!!!
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