Does your bike comply?

[steveyb]

"Race" might be overstating it somewhat.

[Drew]

People race at Teretonga? REALLY?! Go figure......

"Race" might be overstating it somewhat.

Swim, freeze, and mope are common adjectives associated with that location. More so than 'race' at least.

[Maido]

Swim, freeze, and mope are common adjectives associated with that location. More so than 'race' at least.

have you ever raced there Drew?

[Deano]

Deano.. i thought exactly the same at weekend when i was fitting bodywork to the SV (yes it will soon be back on track) But i had an idea... as the SV belly pan is quite long and the front section is deep (under sump) and rear section tapers off (and does require cutting to miss exhaust) im going to glass in a DAM across the bellypan just behind the engine to contain oil etc in the front half... (still holds way more than 3litres.

Yeah there are always options - the dam may have to fit around the zorst also - might need a heat proof rubber moulding to stop the glass burning.

[jellywrestler]

Swim, freeze, and mope are common adjectives associated with that location. More so than 'race' at least.

teretonga rocks, rain hail or snow, it's just the wind that's a maggot

[Drew]

teretonga rocks, rain hail or snow, it's just the wind that's a maggot

Craig. and Jay say the same thing. Cross wind down the back straight is a killer.

I've never been there, and have no immediate plans unless they have sidecars at the Burt Monroe.

[Dave-]

Just clarifying the wording of this new rule.

Rule 22.6.2
Once the meeting has been declared wet, are rear facing red LED light must be fitted and operational. The light must be fitted to the motorcycle and in a position that is visible to any following rider and be of a minimum size of 25mm and maximum of 45mm.

While I don't care too much for proper spelling and grammar, especially on an internet forum, I would expect an official document from Motorcycling New Zealand to at least be proof read (if you can't spot it, read the first sentence out loud, word for word).

Secondly most of the technical details of the rule can be assumed with common sense, but I would have expected better wording surrounding the dimensions of this rear facing LED light.

My interpretation is that a light has 2 dimensions (it has 3, but we'll keep it simple), the smallest dimension must be greater than 25mm and the largest dimension must be smaller than 45mm. To say it differently would be that each dimension must be between 25mm and 45mm. Am I right? I might be wrong? happy to be wrong, cause then I can be right!

[Drew]

Just clarifying the wording of this new rule.



While I don't care too much for proper spelling and grammar, especially on an internet forum, I would expect an official document from Motorcycling New Zealand to at least be proof read (if you can't spot it, read the first sentence out loud, word for word).

Secondly most of the technical details of the rule can be assumed with common sense, but I would have expected better wording surrounding the dimensions of this rear facing LED light.

My interpretation is that a light has 2 dimensions (it has 3, but we'll keep it simple), the smallest dimension must be greater than 25mm and the largest dimension must be smaller than 45mm. To say it differently would be that each dimension must be between 25mm and 45mm. Am I right? I might be wrong? happy to be wrong, cause then I can be right!

The MNZ rules are fucken appaling, for grammatical errors. Front to back.

[Bykmad]

Why aren't these rules in Motorcycles Technical??? The same applies to Lock Wiring Brake Calipers. These rules should apply to ALL Road Race Machines. Incidents don't only happen at Championship Events.

[Grumph]

Why aren't these rules in Motorcycles Technical??? The same applies to Lock Wiring Brake Calipers. These rules should apply to ALL Road Race Machines. Incidents don't only happen at Championship Events.

I agree that this type of rule should be in Motorcycles technical. It would seem though that no other discipline needs a rear light in wet conditions....

BUT I disagree with the encroaching creep of lockwiring. All lockwiring does is show you when something's moved by breaking...Having anything lockwired does not guarantee it's tight. OR that it will remain tight.
People may point to the yanks for example - the AMA and AHRMA are positively anal in their lockwiring rules. BUT most of that is to avoid potential insurance liability claims....

[malcy25]

has anyone who wrote the rule actually investigated what is available? Size is not a indicator of performance (LOL!).....I've got a really great little light that is probably less than the min size and blinding in power and there are other really good long narrow ones...

[Billy]

Why aren't these rules in Motorcycles Technical??? The same applies to Lock Wiring Brake Calipers. These rules should apply to ALL Road Race Machines. Incidents don't only happen at Championship Events.

I agree that this type of rule should be in Motorcycles technical. It would seem though that no other discipline needs a rear light in wet conditions....

BUT I disagree with the encroaching creep of lockwiring. All lockwiring does is show you when something's moved by breaking...Having anything lockwired does not guarantee it's tight. OR that it will remain tight.
People may point to the yanks for example - the AMA and AHRMA are positively anal in their lockwiring rules. BUT most of that is to avoid potential insurance liability claims....

has anyone who wrote the rule actually investigated what is available? Size is not a indicator of performance (LOL!).....I've got a really great little light that is probably less than the min size and blinding in power and there are other really good long narrow ones...

Wow,

Some really good feedback here,Pity you "EXPERTS" couldn't be arsed following the MNZ protocols and have your submissions in the correct place at the correct time,TOO LATE NOW!!!!

Still,Wouldnt expect folks that have your fellas sort of experience to actually know how the system works,Especially seeing as 2 of ya's are stewards and 1 is an ex roadrace commissioner,Go figure aye,The MNZ knocking machine has now extended to include those in the system.

Yip,The size was investigated and I have one on my machine as does Daniel Mettam and Glen Williams,Don't know where they got theirs,But I bought mine at Mt cycles,$15 retail,Visibility of a minimum 80 metres,Still I'd expext Alister would know all that....being a cyclist and all,Oh and the new rules will be included for ALL classes for 2015 if the board will allow it,Just trying to ease the competitors into it,Any other expert advice would be better sent to the correct people through the correct channels at the appropriate time.

[malcy25]

Wow,


Yip,The size was investigated and I have one on my machine as does Daniel Mettam and Glen Williams,Don't know where they got theirs,But I bought mine at Mt cycles,$15 retail,Visibility of a minimum 80 metres,Still I'd expext Alister would know all that....being a cyclist and all,Oh and the new rules will be included for ALL classes for 2015 if the board will allow it,Just trying to ease the competitors into it,Any other expert advice would be better sent to the correct people through the correct channels at the appropriate time.

Good, glad you clarified it. I've been banging on here and elsewhere on wher you can get them, but until now, I'd not seen any size data and whether what was decreed was going to fit with what was readily available.

[Drew]

Good, glad you clarified it. I've been banging on here and elsewhere on wher you can get them, but until now, I'd not seen any size data and whether what was decreed was going to fit with what was readily available.

Are you a steward, or the ex commissioner?

Doesn't really matter, since retardation like yours should have excluded you from either fucking role.

I have never once asked Billy a question, that he has said wasn't his area so he wouldn't answer it. Everyone has his email addy, and phone number. Why the hell wouldn't you ask him directly, before 'banging on here"?

[Deano]

BUT I disagree with the encroaching creep of lockwiring. All lockwiring does is show you when something's moved by breaking...Having anything lockwired does not guarantee it's tight. OR that it will remain tight.

I could be wrong but isn't the point of lockwiring the caliper bolts to stop the bolts and caliper coming off completely, causing a crash ?

It doesn't really matter if the bolts loosen a little as the lock wire will prevent a full rotation of the bolt.