Illegal downloading

[superjackal]

We are far away from anywhere but Australia. Cables need be run across the ocean floors, and maintained - its expensive.

M'yeeeaaaah, that's that they tell us - but then - they would, wouldn't they?

I still think we're ripped off, banks, building, telecomms, vehicles, services, food (FSS we produce enough!), taxes....

Watched something the other day on the 1980s. They claimed that in 1980 an average CEOs salary was 38 times an average workers. Today it's more like 400 times the average worker. THAT'S why sh*t's got expensive. Everyone has to send their kid to private school, buy the latest BMW, upgrade their kitchen...

The banks class action going on right now it all about, "Hey, c'mon - enough's enough - play fair".

[iYRe]

M'yeeeaaaah, that's that they tell us - but then - they would, wouldn't they?

umm.. because there is a huge cable.. under the sea.. which cost lots of money to lay, and lots of money to maintain?

"They" dont need to tell you..

[Scuba_Steve]

Last time I was in STraya I read an article about their supermarket duopoly. In some areas of the east coast Aldi had come in and was consistently 25% cheaper than the other two.

In NZ we put up with shitty expensive supermarkets (duopoly)

Last I saw our markets of super were cheap than OZ, infact someone showed they could fly to NZ super shop & fly back cheaper than going to the local supermarket.

[Gremlin]

"They" dont need to tell you..

Perhaps they do.

But hey, lets let each household pay for their own international bandwidth. Only around $100 per 1mbit.

[iYRe]

Perhaps they do.

But hey, lets let each household pay for their own international bandwidth. Only around $100 per 1mbit.

haha true :P

[HenryDorsetCase]

umm.. because there is a huge cable.. under the sea.. which cost lots of money to lay, and lots of money to maintain?

"They" dont need to tell you..

bollocks to that. interwebs come from silver balloons floating about. I saw it on the news.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Last I saw our markets of super were cheap than OZ, infact someone showed they could fly to NZ super shop & fly back cheaper than going to the local supermarket.

try and get any veges into Straya and the cops with the H & K's will shoot you is all.

[iYRe]

bollocks to that. interwebs come from silver balloons floating about. I saw it on the news.

awesome, because piloting a balloon seems like a far more exciting job than what I currently do (making internets works - because it's a crap job).

[superjackal]

Perhaps they do.

But hey, lets let each household pay for their own international bandwidth. Only around $100 per 1mbit.

Can you explain that bit more?

[iYRe]

Can you explain that bit more?

Your adsl, say, can download, if you have adsl2+, at 24mb/s. each mb/s costs the ISP about 100$, so your "speed" is worth $2400/s.

It doesnt work like that, effectively. An ISP I used to work for has 45000 or so ADSL customers and an international throughput of about 3Gb/s. Bandwidth is pooled, and so forth, which brings the cost down.

Compare this to the USA where virtually all data is "local" (within the USA - caveat, its not quite like this anymore, but it was a few years ago). Even in NZ local data through peering exchanges is virtually free. This is why people partner with sky (through peering making all data local), and have google and akamai caches in their networks, to prevent data going "international". And this is why torrenters are a pain in the arse. 80% of all data is used by them (us :P), and very little of it is local. Thus causing ISP's to either throttle them, or buy more bandwidth so that "interteubz is fast" for everyone..