Clapton or Hendrix

[MisterD]

I'd add Keef to that list. Its all about the groove.....

Oh, and Wilko Johnson.

[GrayWolf]

Motorhead are in my top five favourite bands of all time. I am quite familiar with those tracks.

You could have put in OVERKILL also. <<<< Sadly restricted to only 2 vids in a post Or hell yeh.. and would have bunged in Uncle Ted, with Stranglehold

Interesting that no one has mentioned Yngwie Malmsteen, Satriani or those guys. None of it does it for me: as one of my friends (a bass player - cue jokes) says "its all pointless fret-wank".

One of my favourite git-box threesomes is the Isbell-Hood-Cooley era of Drive By Truckers. Here's an example (and the first DBT song I ever heard) also, this thread needs more banjo (hey, if Lemmy is in then banjo is in): Cue up some Flatt & Scruggs.

Err I mentioned them several posts ago..... including jeff Beck. I agree most of the nmodern era are 'technician's who can play some amazing 'riffs'.. but hey 'riffs' were invented by these Old School guys and their peers.... There is an argueable factoid that Mr's Blackmore, Page, Clapton, Beck played the first ever 'rock riffs' in their early/mid 1960's 'pop' bands....

[superjackal]

Err I mentioned them several posts ago..... including jeff Beck. I agree most of the nmodern era are 'technician's who can play some amazing 'riffs'.. but hey 'riffs' were invented by these Old School guys and their peers.... There is an argueable factoid that Mr's Blackmore, Page, Clapton, Beck played the first ever 'rock riffs' in their early/mid 1960's 'pop' bands....

Hasn't been mentioned as he's out of genre but I reckon Jerry Reed would have frightened the sh*t out of Hendrix. Only other player I rank up there with Hendrix.

[Maha]

Open to debate but, Hendrix had (and was known for) only one style/genre, no doubting his ability and obvious status as a guitar player, but Clapton has the edge over Hendrix for pure talent alone.

[Bikemad]

Hendrix........clapton copied....Jimmy invented

what he said...........and i reckon Tommy Emmanuel would smoke all the other geezers mentioned no worries

[superjackal]

what he said...........and i reckon Tommy Emmanuel would smoke all the other geezers mentioned no worries

I've seen Tommy Emmanuel many times now. He's brilliant but not original and he can write some dreadful saccharin crap. Guitar Boogie is a good show case but.... "Seen it". Coolest thing he does is the dixie/yankee doodle at the same time medley. As typewriters go, he be one of the fastest, on of the guys who knows all the shortcut keys but don't mean he can write a good book.

This is Reed with Chet Atkins. Jerry Reed's playing is totally beguiling. If you think it seems easy pick up a guitar and try figure out where the f*ck this guy came from! Musically it's a total mindf*ck.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ni8KBhnebwE

[husaberg]

Open to debate but, Hendrix had (and was known for) only one style/genre, no doubting his ability and obvious status as a guitar player, but Clapton has the edge over Hendrix for pure talent alone.

Wow that's is a bit unfair........ dying at 27 limited Hendrix's opportunities a little..........
Shorten Clapton's career to his first 6 or 7 years. Not so sure how he would compare then myself.
It's Moot because they are/were both f-ing talented but Clapton handled the drugs better or was more lucky (or both)

[mashman]

I bought a Clapton CD yesterday. Better vocal range and I'm going for it, a better guitarist. His range of styles over the years has included very Jimiesque material. Could be as said by someone else earlier, that Jimi would have developed with a wider range of styles too. But he didn't, so no disrespect to the dead fulla, but Clapton is the confirmed winner.

[eelracing]

I bought a Clapton CD yesterday. Better vocal range and I'm going for it, a better guitarist. His range of styles over the years has included very Jimiesque material. Could be as said by someone else earlier, that Jimi would have developed with a wider range of styles too. But he didn't, so no disrespect to the dead fulla, but Clapton is the confirmed winner.

Really? what has Clapton done since Harrison dragged his sorry drug addled arse out of the house all those years ago.
A turgid rendition of JJ Cales cocain???
I shot the sherriff? which any music lover would dismiss as a white mans wank compared to Bob Marleys superior version.
Tears in heaven? if i'm being generous only really appealed to bored housewives.

As for vocals who gives a shit go and watch American idol if that's your thing as Blind Faith to them is something the advertisers rely on.
Jimi still sells today (more than Clapton I expect)because he fused electric blues/rock to stratospheric heights that no one could even compare to,let alone get their heads around.
Clapton just comes across as fluffy,smug and bored today... a bit like an old sock.

[mashman]

Really? what has Clapton done since Harrison dragged his sorry drug addled arse out of the house all those years ago.
A turgid rendition of JJ Cales cocain???
I shot the sherriff? which any music lover would dismiss as a white mans wank compared to Bob Marleys superior version.
Tears in heaven? if i'm being generous only really appealed to bored housewives.

As for vocals who gives a shit go and watch American idol if that's your thing as Blind Faith to them is something the advertisers rely on.
Jimi still sells today (more than Clapton I expect)because he fused electric blues/rock to stratospheric heights that no one could even compare to,let alone get their heads around.
Clapton just comes across as fluffy,smug and bored today... a bit like an old sock.

So you don't really rate Clapton then. Picking out individual songs and dismissing the artist only shows that you have a one track mind I like the versatility of Clapton, both good and quick click the next button. Similarly with Hendrix, but he had less versatility.

[HenryDorsetCase]

So you don't really rate Clapton then. Picking out individual songs and dismissing the artist only shows that you have a one track mind I like the versatility of Clapton, both good and quick click the next button. Similarly with Hendrix, but he had less versatility.

Here's another thing: Hendrix died at his peak: Clapton arguably peaked with the Yardbirds. (in fact, arguably the entire british music scene peaked in 1968, and was moribund until 1976.... a topic for another thread). But Hendrix did not get the chance to sink into the utter mediocrity of an aging muso and their aging fans. Not to say aged fans.. So there's that.

[Maha]

So you don't really rate Clapton then. Picking out individual songs and dismissing the artist only shows that you have a one track mind I like the versatility of Clapton, both good and quick click the next button. Similarly with Hendrix, but he had less versatility.

.....and Clapton knew how to take drugs, and survive.

[MisterD]

arguably the entire british music scene peaked in 1968, and was moribund until 1976.... a topic for another thread

A topic that you should head off and argue with yourself over. It was you raving about going to see Black Sabbath (first four albums 70-74) wasn't it?

[HenryDorsetCase]

A topic that you should head off and argue with yourself over. It was you raving about going to see Black Sabbath (first four albums 70-74) wasn't it?

I am perfectly capable of arguing with myself yes. and I am a fan of the first nine Sabs albums (up to Technical Ecstacy). No, I dint go and see them at Vector. couple of reasons: They shafted Bill Ward, and they are old.

Having said that the two dates were sort of random: but you get where i am going with it? Nothing genuinely new or creative, all just derivative of stuff that peaked in 68 (Stones at the Albert Hall, maybe Woodstock though I hate hippies). after that, till we get Led Zeppelin doing 20 minute solos, Pge playing a double neck git-box using a violin bow etc etc: frivolity, pointless fret-wank and music disappearing up its own arse. mid-late 1976 was when the Sex Pistols were playing shows to 100 people, and changing popular music and culture. Or sowing the seeds for that anyway.

Its like the early Homo Sapiens and the Neanderthals: there is no clean break, there is overlap and interbreeding.

[MisterD]

Its like the early Homo Sapiens and the Neanderthals: there is no clean break, there is overlap and interbreeding.

Yeah, I get where you're going, and to sort of tie it back to the original question I see it all as part of the to-ing and fro-ing of influences between the US and UK.

Chicago blues was the major influence on all the big UK names of the 60's - Beatles, Stones, Clapton, Kinks and you can look at Hendrix as being influenced by the poppier UK sounds as well as being a direct evolution from Chicago.

If you pick the high-water mark of the UK tide as 68/69 (Stones' "Let it Bleed") it neatly lines up with the emergence of The Stooges etc, whose influence begets UK Punk and NWOBHM and they, in return, influence Metallica et al...