It's not speed, they just don't look

[oneofsix]

Now tell us something we didn't already know.

Speed is not the big issue in crashes on Wellington streets - it's mostly that drivers and pedestrians don't look out for each other.

Get amusing when further down the pedestrians try to shift all the blame on to the drivers Any one that has walked or driven Wellington City streets will see the joke, or as per a recent comment from someone that wasn't used to walking in Wellington "you could tell I was the noob as I was the only one that stopped for the lights at intersections"

[Dragon]

Now tell us something we didn't already know.



Get amusing when further down the pedestrians try to shift all the blame on to the drivers Any one that has walked or driven Wellington City streets will see the joke, or as per a recent comment from someone that wasn't used to walking in Wellington "you could tell I was the noob as I was the only one that stopped for the lights at intersections"

I still think im weird because Im one of the only people I know(in saying that I havent asked anyone new lately) that looks and judges if the car/bike etc coming towards a crossing has time to stop/see me before I walk out.

But I also know how to watch the lights if Im walking down courtney place etc

[Swoop]

Retarded pedestrians, with their face buried in their ifone, deserve to get splatted. Fuck 'em.

[oneofsix]

Retarded pedestrians, with their face buried in their ifone, deserve to get splatted. Fuck 'em.

totally opposite of the excuse the council used to lower the speed limit.

[Swoop]

totally opposite of the excuse the council used to lower the speed limit.

They are going against Mr Darwin and his fine work.

Leave Mr Darwin alone. He is improving our gene pool. What the council should have done is to RAISE the speed limit to a minimum of 70.

[willytheekid]

Maybe if kiwis general driving behavior etc was actuality policed!, we might see a change in drivers attitudes (like actually LOOKING before doing etc)

I thought pedestrians in wellington were far game? lol

[oneofsix]

Maybe if kiwis general driving behavior etc was actuality policed!, we might see a change in drivers attitudes (like actually LOOKING before doing etc)

I thought pedestrians in wellington were far game? lol

Agreed but that would take actual policing and police interested in stuff like failing to indicate rather than automated policing via speed and red light cameras (which arguably cause more crashes than they prevent). I note that recently even a coroner said the law on indicators can be ignore, not quite his words but roughly what saying other drivers can't have a reasonable expectation that indicators will be used correctly means.

[mashman]

They are going against Mr Darwin and his fine work.

Leave Mr Darwin alone. He is improving our gene pool. What the council should have done is to RAISE the speed limit to a minimum of 70.

Like................

[scissorhands]

Pedestrians often walk out without looking.... acting like they are 10ft tall, penalties should be in place for jay walking

For a driver, there are so many things to observe in Wellys tight streets, an over abundance of traffic signage creates a cry wolf mentality when urgent or important signage is hidden amongst all the unnecessary crap

One of the worst streets in Aucks, for me at least is Franklin Road Ponsonby. All the large flame trees have grown into the street lights beam, so the pedo walks out in darkness whilst light falls all around him but not on him. Accident waiting to happen

I'm so over ringing peeps to complain anymore, fuck ups are endemic, they can fix their own crap

[Banditbandit]

Fuck 'em.

Naaa .. that only creates more of them ..

[Drew]

Penalties are in place for 'J' walking. I just don't think I've ever heard of it being enforced.

[oneofsix]

Penalties are in place for 'J' walking. I just don't think I've ever heard of it being enforced.

Nope, you been watching too match USA TV again. There are rules but J walking isn't the correct term
This isn't quite the quote I wanted but it does cover the subject, I really like the last one and it refers back to Dagon's comment in post #2

In New Zealand there is no law against jaywalking most of the time – you are legally allowed to cross the road.

However, there are rules around where and how you cross the road, and infringements ranging from $10 to $35 can be dished out if you decide to make an unsafe dash to the other side.

The main rule is that, if you are within 20 metres of a controlled crossing – either a zebra crossing or light signals – you are required to walk to that crossing to make your way across the road.
You are meant to wait for the green man at intersections controlled by signals.
You are required to keep to the footpath while walking, and cross at right angles rather than diagonally.
Fines issued for pedestrian offences from 2006 to 2011:
Crossing against the red human figure traffic symbol, $10 fine – 13 (4 of them in the Wellington district)
Crossing within 20m of pedestrian crossing, $35 fine – 2 (both in Wellington district)
Crossing within 20m of traffic signals, $35 fine – 3 (Wellington district)
Crossing other than at right angles, $35 fine – 1 (0 in Wellington district)
Failing to keep to footpath, $35 fine – 3 (1 in Wellington district)
Failing to keep to edge of roadway, $35 fine – 0
Suddenly entering a pedestrian crossing, $35 fine – 1 (0 in Wellington district)

[scissorhands]

Pedestrians abuse their rights, some maliciously, like pressing the button after crossing the road so the lights activate again, and cars stop again, and they have a snigger while walking away. Little shits
Greater accountability for pedestrians would improve non statistical encounters of motorist and pedestrian, which are many

[Drew]

Pedestrians abuse their rights, some maliciously, like pressing the button after crossing the road so the lights activate again, and cars stop again, and they have a snigger while walking away. Little shits
Greater accountability for pedestrians would improve non statistical encounters of motorist and pedestrian, which are many

I get annoyed with the people that push the button, and then walk accross when a gap appears. So traffic stops shortly after, for no one.

[imdying]

penalties should be in place for jay walking

There are, it's called getting your dumb arse run over.

They treat the road like the footpath in Wellington, for whatever reason, having been there on business more than once, I'm surprised the lunchtime rush doesn't lose one or two people every day.