It's not speed, they just don't look

[caspernz]

There are, it's called getting your dumb arse run over.

They treat the road like the footpath in Wellington, for whatever reason, having been there on business more than once, I'm surprised the lunchtime rush doesn't lose one or two people every day.

Who is to say we don't just bury them down in Darwins' own special graveyard??

[Drew]

Who is to say we don't just bury them down in Darwins' own special graveyard??

Could have matched a concentration camp with the number of corpses I wanted to add to such a place on the roads today.

[caspernz]

Could have matched a concentration camp with the number of corpses I wanted to add to such a place on the roads today.

Sssshhhh, the SCPA may be moving into the old Fever Hospital on Mt Vic, but we're keeping the shower block for jay walkers...complete with the German plumbing

[neels]

I get annoyed with the people that push the button, and then walk accross when a gap appears. So traffic stops shortly after, for no one.

That can be fixed, outside my son's school they've installed a pressure pad in the footpath to stop the little shits pressing the button and buggering off, if you don't stay standing on it the lights don't change.

[Clockwork]

That can be fixed, outside my son's school they've installed a pressure pad in the footpath to stop the little shits pressing the button and buggering off, if you don't stay standing on it the lights don't change.

I dunno, I'd rather we adopted te UK solution where the light phase quickly changes from red (compulsory stop) to flashing orange, once that happens a driver can proceed as long as the crossing is clear. This means you can get on your way quickly if there is no one still waiting or they've crossed quickly, you only have to wait around from the slow, elderly, young etc... This works particularly well where the road is wide.

[Drew]

This works particularly well where the road is wide.

That would mean a change to the law, they said they changed, but really only intended to enforce. Where drivers must wait for pedestrians to get off the road completely, unless there is a physical median.

Fuck confusing dumb kiwi drivers even more than they are already.

[oneofsix]

That can be fixed, outside my son's school they've installed a pressure pad in the footpath to stop the little shits pressing the button and buggering off, if you don't stay standing on it the lights don't change.

They tried that outside Te Papa shortly after it opened but took them away when the pedestrians complained that if they wandered away they had to push the button again When you got a mayor that rides an electric push bike and calls it eco what do you expect, if she was that eco why not jump on one of the buses? Seems to be working ok at Otaki, maybe the country folk are smarter

I dunno, I'd rather we adopted te UK solution where the light phase quickly changes from red (compulsory stop) to flashing orange, once that happens a driver can proceed as long as the crossing is clear. This means you can get on your way quickly if there is no one still waiting or they've crossed quickly, you only have to wait around from the slow, elderly, young etc... This works particularly well where the road is wide.

Covered in road code already, there is no need for the red phase for vehicles. In fact this red phase I reckon this encourages cars to force through when they finally get the green in spite of the actual law that they give way to pedestrians, even on the flashing red man, which is actually the pedestrian equivalent of amber.

[Drew]

even on the flashing red man, which is actually the pedestrian equivalent of amber.

No, it's the pedestrian signal not to start crossing the road, as traffic is not required to give way once anyone already out there is gone.

[Clockwork]

No, it's the pedestrian signal not to start crossing the road, as traffic is not required to give way once anyone already out there is gone.

You sure about that? A red light is a stop (and stay stopped) sign as far as I was aware.

[Drew]

You sure about that? A red light is a stop (and stay stopped) sign as far as I was aware.

You want the pedestrians to stop in the middle of the road, until a little green man goes again?

[Clockwork]

You want the pedestrians to stop in the middle of the road, until a little green man goes again?

Maybe I misunderstood you, I took your comment "as traffic is not required to give way once anyone already out there is gone" to mean that once the crossing was clear drivers are free to drive on even if the light (driver's light) is still red.

[FJRider]

No, it's the pedestrian signal not to start crossing the road, as traffic is not required to give way once anyone already out there is gone.

It actually means there is not enough time to (walk) cross the road safely ... before the lights change against your favour.

The law still require vehicles to give way to pedestrians on marked pedestrian crossings ...

[Gremlin]

Slow news then. I declared you lot crazy back in 2011: http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...lington-people!

[Drew]

The law still require vehicles to give way to pedestrians on marked pedestrian crossings ...

They are not cross walks. Turning vehicals have right of way once the little red man is flashing. AFTER people who started walking with a green man are clear.

[FJRider]

They are not cross walks. Turning vehicals have right of way once the little red man is flashing. AFTER people who started walking with a green man are clear.

The law tends to frown on those running down pedestrians ... regardless of the legality of their crossing.

However ... stepping out in front of moving cars without looking, might be considered dangerous. Or even stupid. The attitude of pedestrians that ... "They wont hit me" .. might be a tad optimistic ...

And I did say "Marked pedestrian crossing" ....