How can Harley Davidson appeal to younger riders? + Poll.

[Ender EnZed]

:-)

OK - more specific.

The race track doesn't interest me at all (other than for the photo opportunity). No idea about lap times.

What interests me is road riding, going to different places, touring and exploring on a bike. And keeping my licence so I can continue to do so.

If I had to choose one of those you mention for NZ - it would be the Bandit. Here in Brisbane it would be the V-rod.

Different tools for different jobs (and places).

Which would be your steed for a race against your peers on a track in NZ for a bath with Emma Watson (or similar) and $1 million prize money? Preferably all four in order.

My uninformed opinion would be VTR, Bandit, XR, V-Rod but I've only ridden the VTR so it's pretty much meaningless.

[Big Dave]

Another thing Brett

It's Harley-Davidson.

My homie Bill Davidson takes it personally if you miss the dash.

[Ender EnZed]

I should probably add that XR1200s have been making me uncomfortable in the nether regions for longer than I care to admit and I may just have to ride one soon to see what it does.

[Big Dave]

Which would be your steed for a race against your peers on a track in NZ for a bath with Emma Watson (or similar) and $1 million prize money? Preferably all four in order.

My uninformed opinion would be VTR, Bandit, XR, V-Rod but I've only ridden the VTR so it's pretty much meaningless.

Yep agree - 1 and 2 - But 3 would be the V-rod - goes very much like the VTR when you spool it up. 125 ponies weighted toward the top end of the rev range. The Sporty would get through the corners quicker via better lean angle (and no fat arse rear tyre), but the V-rod woud better it on exits and top speed. The V-rod has some of the nicest Brembo brakes on the market too. (talking 2013 model here).


EDIT: XR1200 is a very nice bike. They make me feel good - and I'm sure my dick is longer.

[Brett]

Another thing Brett

It's Harley-Davidson.

My homie Bill Davidson takes it personally if you miss the dash.

Point taken. Won't be lazy with my hyphens anymore. - .

Bloody oldies...have to have everything just the way they like it eh?

[Ender EnZed]

Yep agree - 1 and 2 - But 3 would be the V-rod - goes very much like the VTR when you spool it up. 125 ponies weighted toward the top end of the rev range. The Sporty would get through the corners quicker via better lean angle (and no fat arse rear tyre), but the V-rod woud better it on exits and top speed. The V-rod has some of the nicest Brembo brakes on the market too. (talking 2013 model here).


EDIT: XR1200 is a very nice bike. They make me feel good - and I'm sure my dick is longer.

So... the gist of it is that the cheap ass jap bikes are faster? Fuck.

No new information.

That just makes me want a Buell even more. It's a real shame that by the time I'm going to be looking to buy a new bike there're going to be fuck all American options.

[Big Dave]

Point taken. Won't be lazy with my hyphens anymore. - .

Bloody oldies...have to have everything just the way they like it eh?

EH - Whats that - SPEAK UP!

Picky picky. I was actually just thinking of your paper being all proper like.

[Big Dave]

Conversely - any of those bikes will happily cruise at well beyond disqualification speed all day.

It's an old adage, but very true.

It's much more fun to ride a slow bike fast - than a fast bike slow.

[Ender EnZed]

EH - Whats that - SPEAK UP!

Picky picky. I was actually just thinking of your paper being all proper like.

Conversely - any of those bikes will happily cruise at well beyond disqualification speed all day.

It's an old adage, but very true.

It's much more fun to ride a slow bike fast - than a fast bike slow.

I don't doubt it.

The XR1200 is a tasty bike though. I think I've made my points clear re: older tech Harleys but that XR12 is a definite contender. The 'Bus has more go than I can use for more than a handful of seconds (I imagine this to be true for most riders) so the next obvious choice is a V-Twin of a tasty nature. My preference is Jap~esque reliability with some extra character for the extra money available on purchase. Sounds like Harley should be able to provide it, they just need the bike

[ducatilover]

In my eyes to get younger riders on them, you might want some LAMS bikes. But judging by the performance of an 883, a LAMS size Harley will have around 14hp.

But, if they kept making the XR1200, I'd get excited (only Harley I would consider owning, except it makes horrid noises), that was a pretty neat bike.

I don't think the young market in NZ is going to bother with Harleys and I really do not think Harley gives a fuck about the young market in NZ, they can't afford one of those $800 genuine p.u leather jackets (what a fucking joke)

[ducatilover]

It's much more fun to ride a slow bike fast - than a fast bike slow.

I think I have enjoyed myself more on my Kawasaki P.O.S than any Harley Davidson I have ridden. And it's a teeny tiny bit fastererer.
But, fun is subjective, so silly sayings mean nothing.

[Brett]

EH - Whats that - SPEAK UP!

Picky picky. I was actually just thinking of your paper being all proper like.

I's gots to practis my gramer skillz...

[Big Dave]

silly sayings mean nothing.

^ The voice of experience.

The best fun bikes I've ridden - a $40k BMW and a $65k Turbo Harley.

Can Am Spyder is up there too - as long as there is no traffic.

[Ender EnZed]

Conversely - any of those bikes will happily cruise at well beyond disqualification speed all day.

It's an old adage, but very true.

It's much more fun to ride a slow bike fast - than a fast bike slow.

Absolutely. That's true of a great many motorcycles though.

It's not going to win any new customers.

I think I have enjoyed myself more on my Kawasaki P.O.S than any Harley Davidson I have ridden. And it's a teeny tiny bit fastererer.
But, fun is subjective, so silly sayings mean nothing.

The voice of experience might be about to fall from great height and explode. Or not. I can't tell.

[Big Dave]

Or not. I can't tell.

He's the worst troller on here. As in worst at it.