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Skunk has tried, but not really offered any 'proper' reason as to why this group feels it has to exclude men.Originally Posted by Jim2
All hell breaks loose if wummen can't get into a boys club, but try and get into a girls gym? 2 chances. None and fuck all.
*As I test case, I nominate myself to join 'contours' gym. See how far I get.*
This WIMA sounds like a good cause, etc..blah..blah, but why do they see the need to exclude men except for when they want a crowd?
Answers on the back of a postcard please
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Dunno & don't care...men have excluded wyminfor years & then get all upity when a wymin's only group is formed. Hmmmmmm
I personally don't have an issue with men only or women only groups, sometimes it's necessary & helpful/healthy.
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Must go faster - but how?
And did you like it them? HmmmmmDunno & don't care...men have excluded wymin
So the best way of dealing with the new found equal rights is to form a wummens only club? Hmmmmmmmmmmm
Except men can't have their own clubs anymore. Or boys schools either.
Im interested what's so helpful/healthy about it anyway?
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sorry been drinking so I can freely admit I dont give a toss and too much navel gazing goes on sometimes. This is a bike forum and some ladies want to go for a ride. Sounds good, Im in if I can wake up in time.
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Yep, Having taken all threads into consideration. I support Breast Cancer Research, As for WIMA....... Thanks for the ride!
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No it's not but I find it amusing that when the shoe (or stylish pump) is on the other foot it's considered unfair.
Ummmmm, there's still boys only schools around NZ.
As for why I think it's helpful/healthy: Recently there was some research done by Celia Lashlie (NZer) on how important it is for young guys to have a masculine space, so for lads going to a boys only school is a positive thing. http://www.harpercollins.co.nz/books...Area=New_NZMen
and http://www.google.co.nz/search?hl=en...cr%3DcountryNZ Women & men are different, we deal with "stuff" differently and so I think having clubs & societies catering for that is all good as long as they are not negatively portraying the opposite sex - which WIMA doesn't.
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Must go faster - but how?
It was never fair before, still isnt.
I can see the logic behind that, and agree; heck, it might even be true, but my complaint is if I tried to join a womens gym, I couldn't, and if I refused a girl membership to a men's only gym, I would be up for all sorts of human rights abuse allegations.
This is beyond the scope of WIMA, which is a good cause and all that, turn up for a ride, great stuff, but to quote:
It's purely the principle I'm against, not the group.
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Get this: They do NOT, exclude men from anything they do except the control of their club. If you're really into being on a committee good on ya.
As I said to CSL today - in some cases a men only or women only group serves a purpose. To see WIMA's purpose in being a "woman's" club you would have to get involved as I did.
I don't see why there shouldn't/can't be separate groups for men and women. If you can't see the differences between men and women then that would explain some of the difficulties that you may be having... (p/t)
It's like having only one type of bike - cause everyone is the same eh.
It annoys me when do-good PC people come along and say you must let everyone in. It doesn't always work.
And curious george; I agree with you.
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It's interesting how this has become a debate about the PC rightness or wrongness of a situation.
It's nothing to do with PC. There is legislation banning single gender organisations. Simple. How come women's organisations are allowed to sidestep it? No one has answered that yet, except to give the usual claptrap about Men deserving the same treatment. That's REAL grown up people. Not.
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Didn't know there was for clubs. I thought it applied to employment etc.
Must go faster - but how?
Ahhhhh, just a little bit of exclusion then. (p/t)
If that's what people want, fine. In some cases it might be for the best.
Front line women (or gay) soldiers anyone? (I know it's allowed, but there is hardly a rush is there....)
The gripe really is what Jim said, it's the gummermint! Legislitation exists so people cannot be discriminated against because of their sex. So how come some groups can? (this rule might only apply to Govt departments actually..)
I'm sure if some bloke really got into WIMA (or any other) and did good things for it, then I'm sure rules would change.
Just rather irksome that it was mentioned at all. If nobody had said 'Men not allowed', nobody would have noticed at all I bet.
I think we are thinking along similar lines. Gaaah! How can we have a decent arguement if we agree? Dammit!
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How about the irrelevantly named Wellington Working Men's Club?Didn't know there was for clubs. I thought it applied to employment etc.
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Getting back on track for a moment. There were approx 50 bikes on the ride today and a decent sum of money was raised for Breast Cancer Research.
Leaving the railway station we rode out to Parremata, met up with a few from up North and then rode over the Haywards, finishing up at TSS where Stuart had cooked up a stack of sausages for everyone.
I ended up being tail end charlie as I had dusted of the mighty CT110 and played minder to a small group of learners who did well. Biggest effort goes to Tania who rode down from Waipukurau for the ride. Kate organised the ride & Viv was the one selling badges etc.
There were a number of KBr's on the ride and WIMA thanks you for your support.
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Working Men's club - For Men ONLY.
Mason's club - For Men ONLY.
Cosmopolitian Club (PN) - I am sure this is for Men ONLY as well.
There may well be a few other Men's ONLY clubs out there in NZ.
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