Nzsbk 2014

[Drew]

I don't think we have actually met, I can't tell if your being sarcastic or not?

HA I knew you were shit stirring!

Ya did bloody not!

[Kickaha]

so decided to be a dick

Well you should always stick with the things you're good at

[Drew]

Well you should always stick with the things you're good at

That's what my dad told me

[arkeye]

What are the other dates for the summer series?

Well if you look back through the Manfeild calendar I'd say it's Jan 18/19. And looking at the Taupo bookings, 8/9 Nov.

[Robert Taylor]

6 would be awesome! Fix Pukekohe to suit motorcycles and run that too! 7 rounds in 3000kms, that would surely attract overseas riders.

I think Jeremy everyone has to be careful how many rounds one wishes for. I know youve got a totally level mind so I know you wont put on a ''KB face'' !

So when we think about all of this overall how many support people are there per rider? By that I mean not only their immediate mechanics and helpers but also flag marshals, officials running the meeting, MNZ officiando, ambulance people, tyre changers, suspension technicians, industry representatives, etc etc. Do ALL of the people that tour around want to attend even more rounds, following 3 Tri Series rounds and 5 Nationals rounds? Can they afford to? Can they take even more time off work? Many are already at ''overload'' as the season end nears will think even more ''I could have a great low stress holiday rather than help Johny racer get his kicks on the track and get yelled at if something goes wrong''. That sounds cynical but so often is pretty close to the truth. Of course everyone is getting big bucks for giving up their free time......Its actually little wonder that you dont see too many longterm helpers as they soon suss out that there are lower stress ways of spending nice long summer days.

Even more pointedly what percentage of the riders themselves will be able to fund themselves ( or by benefactors ) even more money for tyres, fuel, meals and accomodation / incidentals? Will companies such as Suzuki NZ ( who have poured an enormous amount of loss making revenue into the sport over the years ) have the stomach to effectively fund more racing costs over extra rounds? Especially given that they have for next season retrenched back a lot and required that riders find a lot more of their own funding.

THE WHOLE POINT HERE IS THAT EVERYTHING DOESNT AUTOMATICALLY FOLLOW from the whims of riders and spectators. Many specatators of course will not attend every single round because its TOO COSTLY for them to do so ( I think that makes a point in itself ) My personal view is that when you factor in the Tri Series there is already too much racing and to hope for more is going to challenge something that is already on a knife edge of what is economically feasible and also of how it compromises a lot of peoples personal calendars.

[CHOPPA]

6 rounds and you can drop a round.

[jellywrestler]

6 rounds and you can drop a round.

problem is with that is who'll bother to go to the final round if they've had a good season?????

[Grumph]

6 rounds and you can drop a round.

What Jelly said plus, it only works if you've got equal numbers of competitors in NI and SI. Main reason for dropping or not attending a round would be travel cost - SI riders dropping Northernmost round, NI riders dropping southernmost round.
Given the existing distribution of riders this would mean too few entries for whichever round is the southernmost which makes it not viable for an organsing club.
Notice how PC I'm being not naming a circuit.......However, if Teretonga goes, then Levels becomes the most Southerly etc etc.....

How long before no rounds in the SI ?

[Billy]

What Jelly said plus, it only works if you've got equal numbers of competitors in NI and SI. Main reason for dropping or not attending a round would be travel cost - SI riders dropping Northernmost round, NI riders dropping southernmost round.
Given the existing distribution of riders this would mean too few entries for whichever round is the southernmost which makes it not viable for an organsing club.
Notice how PC I'm being not naming a circuit.......However, if Teretonga goes, then Levels becomes the most Southerly etc etc.....

How long before no rounds in the SI ?

Yea,

I don't get this paranoia from the South Island competitors that theres some conspiracy to eliminate them,Thats just NOT gonna happen,If Teretonga doesn't run this year,Theres NO reason it wouldn't run again in 2015 once any communication problems are sorted.

I agree dropping a round would only work if the 1st and last rounds were compulsory.

But what about this,

Assuming Teretonga was back on,We not only run a New Zealand championship,But also the 2 Island championships could run inside it,IE the 3 SI rounds would comprise the SI series and likewise in the North,Therefore theoretically,More local competitors would attend in each island and at the end we would have ,A South island champ,North island champ and New Zealand champ for each class?????

[DidJit]

... Assuming Teretonga was back on,We not only run a New Zealand championship,But also the 2 Island championships could run inside it,IE the 3 SI rounds would comprise the SI series and likewise in the North,Therefore theoretically,More local competitors would attend in each island and at the end we would have ,A South island champ,North island champ and New Zealand champ for each class?????

A cunning plan.

Not that I'm in any position to comment but, from the outside looking in, that idea has a lot of merit. Hope it gets some traction.

[Deano]

Yea,

Assuming Teretonga was back on,We not only run a New Zealand championship,But also the 2 Island championships could run inside it,IE the 3 SI rounds would comprise the SI series and likewise in the North,Therefore theoretically,More local competitors would attend in each island and at the end we would have ,A South island champ,North island champ and New Zealand champ for each class?????

Great idea mate !

[steveyb]

Assuming Teretonga was back on,We not only run a New Zealand championship,But also the 2 Island championships could run inside it,IE the 3 SI rounds would comprise the SI series and likewise in the North,Therefore theoretically,More local competitors would attend in each island and at the end we would have ,A South island champ,North island champ and New Zealand champ for each class?????

+1 from me and I can't really understand why it has not been in place from day 1 for exactly the reasons provided and also if not simply to win another 'trophy' in the cabinet.

I think that 'dropping a round' could also work, but as suggested only either if rounds 1 and final are compulsory, or if the round is chosen and results are dropped after the end of the season (which is usually the reason for having such a mechanism, to allow a competitor to have a poor round, rather than as an excuse to not attend).

[Shorty_925]

Well if you look back through the Manfeild calendar I'd say it's Jan 18/19. And looking at the Taupo bookings, 8/9 Nov.

Whens entry forms out?

[racer40]

Have to agree with Roberts quote, re to much racing. If you add in the wanganui & Paeroa, that could be 11 top level race meetings in roughly 16 weeks, way to much for most to do, cost wise & time of work wise, and will only take entries away from meetings & we only have so many competitors at this level.
NI & SI series sounds good, could even do if only 2 rounds in each island.

[Billy]

Have to agree with Roberts quote, re to much racing. If you add in the wanganui & Paeroa, that could be 11 top level race meetings in roughly 16 weeks, way to much for most to do, cost wise & time of work wise, and will only take entries away from meetings & we only have so many competitors at this level.
NI & SI series sounds good, could even do if only 2 rounds in each island.

So here we go,

Kiwibiker meet facebook,On facebook when I released the 5 rounds plus 2 for Superbike and Supersport with the V8s,It wasn't enough and I was an idiot for not running enough rounds,

In the interim I try and work something out with Southland club and get an extra round,

Then "HELLO" on Kiwibiker I'm an idiot cause now theres to many rounds.

The only thing that appears to be consistent here is that I am an idiot,I thought that was obvious when I was dumb enough to take on the role of commissioner LMFAO!!!!

Not saying that either party are wrong,Just highlighting the issues I have to face with every subject that comes up