Nzsbk 2014

[codgyoleracer]

Yip,

I got that,The facts are the competitors are not even close to being on the same page with one another and the disappointing part is when they don't get what they personally want,Its somehow MNZs fault for trying to organise something in the middle ground with concessions for everybody.

End of the day,I have a meeting tomorrow with the organisers for NZV8s and I think from what I'm hearing,We will end up with a 5 round series at Ruapuna,Levels,HD,Taupo and Manfeild and people are just going to have to accept that thats how it is,Yes it's disappointing for some that Tertonga won't be on the calender,But I was put in the position of having to look elsewhere for reasons beyond my control and I am not going to take a backward step now.If people think 6 rounds are to many,Then it WILL be Teretonga that is left out as all the others are already in place.

Sorry, Im confused Billy - could you be a bit clearer....... :-) Haha

[jasonu]

Tri series can not be part of the NZSBK series as they run different classes,IE F/F2 as opposed to Superbike and Supersport.

In a country as small as NZ with a very limited supply of willing racers/helpers/spectators, shouldn't or couldn't something be done about this sort of thing? Sounds a bit like the Indycar vs Champcar debacle a few years ago. There wasn't enough room for two similar series and nearly saw the end of both.
Just an observation, not havin' a go at anybody.

[scrivy]

What about a more serious Nationals with prizemoney again, and a seperate "Battle of the Streets" again? But include a few more street circuits for the die hard fans of those.

[CHOPPA]

Has anyone seen the coverage from Hampton Downs???

[quickbuck]

In a country as small as NZ with a very limited supply of willing racers/helpers/spectators, shouldn't or couldn't something be done about this sort of thing? Sounds a bit like the Indycar vs Champcar debacle a few years ago. There wasn't enough room for two similar series and nearly saw the end of both.
Just an observation, not havin' a go at anybody.

Remind me.... was that anything like NZV8 vs V8ST is becoming?

[slowpoke]

In a country as small as NZ with a very limited supply of willing racers/helpers/spectators, shouldn't or couldn't something be done about this sort of thing? Sounds a bit like the Indycar vs Champcar debacle a few years ago. There wasn't enough room for two similar series and nearly saw the end of both.
Just an observation, not havin' a go at anybody.

Nah, Champ vs Indy car were both vying to be the same thing. Tri-Series vs NZSBK is a bit different: Tri-Series seems to be more attractive prospect for club racers, racing some very different bikes to what you see at NZSBK. NZSBK is a much more serious undertaking, different tracks, more stringent machinery rules etc. Tri-Series is a popular warm up for many of the NZSBK guns, but Wanganui is a big risk to take if you have serious aspirations in NZSBK, if it turns to custard then tricky repairing a bike or body in short time frame over holiday break.

My feeling is the two series co-exist fairly well, but be interesting to hear other opinions.

[roogazza]

What about a more serious Nationals with prizemoney again, and a seperate "Battle of the Streets" again? But include a few more street circuits for the die hard fans of those.

Reading KB posts on road racing nowdays, is it actually a fun thing to do anymore ? I don't know, I have nothing to do with it. We went everywhere, Puke, Streets, South, North.
Couldn't wait to get out there. I don't see fun and enjoyment like there once was ?
And yes Scrivy we had prizemoney too huh.

[Drew]

Reading KB posts on road racing nowdays, is it actually a fun thing to do anymore ? I don't know, I have nothing to do with it. We went everywhere, Puke, Streets, South, North.
Couldn't wait to get out there. I don't see fun and enjoyment like there once was ?
And yes Scrivy we had prizemoney too huh.

It's fun alright! I think the current financial market is just making it harder.

I know that sounds like a cop out, but it's nearly impossible for most people to just drop work for every meeting they could do, weather they want to or not.

[roogazza]

It's fun alright! I think the current financial market is just making it harder.

I know that sounds like a cop out, but it's nearly impossible for most people to just drop work for every meeting they could do, weather they want to or not.

I hope it is fun for you guys, really. It must be a bastard trying to pay for modern bikes, tyres and travel and bring up a family/pay a mortgage etc.
God knows what it's like feeding a race bike tyres at every meet ?
I would honestly say I would have flagged it in todays world. I mean as a hobby its got to be fun above all and how do you enjoy it, shelling out heaps of dollars.
I wonder if it will ever come right ? What's ironic is when you can afford it you're usually past it.

[Robert Taylor]

It's fun alright! I think the current financial market is just making it harder.

I know that sounds like a cop out, but it's nearly impossible for most people to just drop work for every meeting they could do, weather they want to or not.

This is why I am gobsmacked that there are people asking more more rounds for the National championships. There is already too much racing, in total

[quickbuck]

I hope it is fun for you guys, really. It must be a bastard trying to pay for modern bikes, tyres and travel and bring up a family/pay a mortgage etc.
God knows what it's like feeding a race bike tyres at every meet ?
I would honestly say I would have flagged it in todays world. I mean as a hobby its got to be fun above all and how do you enjoy it, shelling out heaps of dollars.
I wonder if it will ever come right ? What's ironic is when you can afford it you're usually past it.

Well actually, after the purchase price of a Modern 250 is shelled out, they actually cost stuff all to run.
I can't actually remember when I last bought a tyre, and looking at it the rear will do a few more meetings yet.

Do I have fun?
I think the two biggest smiles in the pits on Saturday were on mine and Rich B's faces after we had a 5 lap dual that was a real crowd pleaser....

250 Production is were it is at... AND it IS a NATIONAL class.

To be fair Rich was on a fast F4 Bike, but the cost isn't moon beams in comparison to some.

[steveyb]

Hmmmm, an older guy racing a cheap to buy, cheap to run, safe (as it can be really) to race, fun to race, low HP but works well bike, having a ball and neither breaking the bank or himself (well not often anyway).
Imagine that......

[Drew]

To be fair Rich was on a fast F4 Bike, but the cost isn't moon beams in comparison to some.

Hahahaha. Were an average punter to pay for the professional hours Richards motor has consumed, he could fuckin near by and race a supersport bike for a year.

As for the class, the racing's good I'm sure, (I've never watched a race), but iy isn't the same thrill as a bigger bike for most who've ridden them.

[Billy]

Hmmmm, an older guy racing a cheap to buy, cheap to run, safe (as it can be really) to race, fun to race, low HP but works well bike, having a ball and neither breaking the bank or himself (well not often anyway).
Imagine that......

Mmmm,

Never thought we were ever gonna agree on anything,But youve got me there,Might be a good idea if some of these other throttle jockeys on 600s and 1000s gave it a shot first up as well.

New graduated licence should fix it for the future(If the ugliest secretary EVER,Gets around to sending me the minutes from the workshop at AGM)

[Billy]

This is why I am gobsmacked that there are people asking more more rounds for the National championships. There is already too much racing, in total

Got a plan that SHOULD suit most,Best of both worlds if we can get it sorted,Hope to release more details with Confirmed dates and venues late this week