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    Quote Originally Posted by Winston001 View Post
    What saddens me is no more battleships and cruisers are being built. Not sure if any are even in service these days.
    Have been on the Missouri, fuck that's impressive, the main gun spec's alone are amazing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Winston001 View Post
    What saddens me is no more battleships and cruisers are being built. Not sure if any are even in service these days.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swoop View Post
    Now completely obsolete and replaced by the carrier.
    Delivering ordnance onto targets at greater ranges whilst carrying the ability to defent not only itself, but the whole battlegroup.

    The coming fleet deployment of drones (X-48) will enhance this strike ability by increasing the strike range from 800 miles to over 2000.


    The battleship has had her day.

    Interestingly, with the defence cuts biting deep, a lot of naval duties are now being performed by cruise missiles.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ocean1 View Post
    Have been on the Missouri, fuck that's impressive, the main gun spec's alone are amazing.
    It's a shame the battleships have been relegated to history. There's nothing quite like 7.2tons of high explosive travelling at 700+m/s to scare the living shit out of everything within a 2k radius. Unfortunately a main armament range of 38k's isn't enough when you can put an aircraft or cruise missile on a 2m square target 500k away. Even for shore bombardment it's cheaper to put half a dozen ships firing 20 rounds a minute on the job rather than a single behemoth. Battleships are also a prick to defend as they attract all the attention and don't have the necessary maneuverability.

    As for Cruisers, the yanks and Russians are the only ones to field them these days and they're literally very big destroyers rather than the traditional Cruiser.
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    I do remember reading that the grunts in Nam loved battleship fire, it was big heavy and accurate.
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    What a real gun looks like. Click image for larger version. 

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    And what a real warship looks like. Click image for larger version. 

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    and what the greenies would build. Click image for larger version. 

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    ...in 80 or 81 whilst I was bobbing around in the North Sea a fair way out from Norway the Russian Fleet, (a Russian Fleet), took a whole night and part of the next day to sail south past us. Even though they were on the horizon, you could still make out the guns on some and in line astern the whole show made a fairly exciting backdrop to what was a usually mundane horizon...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ocean1 View Post
    Have been on the Missouri, fuck that's impressive, the main gun spec's alone are amazing.
    Yeah had a look years ago at the USS Alabama which is tied up in Mobile. Magnificent.

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    Incase anyones interested there is a armour plate at the Auckland Naval Museum from HMS New Zealand where she took a hit from a 16 inch german round. Pretty impressive that metal that thick can bend that much, makes you aware of the extreme forces at work.
    Love naval gun fire support. Boom! 5 seconds later 100m high dust cloud.

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    Iowa class 16" main guns:

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    What almost a ton of black powder/cordite looks like throwing some nine tons worth of projectile at almost 800m/sec.

    You wouldn't want to be too close.

    25 miles orta do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ocean1 View Post
    Iowa class 16" main guns:

    What almost a ton of black powder/cordite looks like throwing some nine tons worth of projectile at almost 800m/sec.

    You wouldn't want to be too close.

    25 miles orta do it.
    You’ll notice in that pic of the Iowa firing a broadside that the main guns don’t all fire at the same time. The guns are sequenced to fire a fraction of a second apart because if they all fire at the same instant the shock would damage the ship. Even so a broadside still pushes the ship sideways about 6 feet. The Yamato had no boats or aircraft stored above deck - they were all stored in hanger space below decks because the blast from its 18.1” main guns would have destroyed them. Even the Iowa above has its boats on the port side, behind the stern turret, presumably for the same reason. So, no, you wouldn't want to be too close.
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    Fuck! It can't be very good for your ears then!
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    Sob...and these megaliths will never be seen to fire again. Seems a right shame to me even though I realise that air craft carriers command the sea these days.

    Hell, imagine sighting the Bismark or the Sharnhorst or the Giesnau off your port quarter. Bugger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laava View Post
    Fuck! It can't be very good for your ears then!
    Almost all of the crews of the Napoleonic war fleet that had seen any significant action were deaf as a post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by far queue View Post
    You’ll notice in that pic of the Iowa firing a broadside that the main guns don’t all fire at the same time... Even so a broadside still pushes the ship sideways about 6 feet.
    I thought the same, and a naval friend said up to 28feet of sideways movement.
    We are all apparently wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ocean1 View Post
    Almost all of the crews of the Napoleonic war fleet that had seen any significant action were deaf as a post.
    Given the amount of training and blockade duty they did, they were probably deaf as a post long before they fired at an enemy ship.
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    Quote Originally Posted by huff3r View Post
    From said wiki article:
    some might say its because the french are too busy surrendering to actually destroy anything
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