Hekia Parasite-ata has left me gobsmacked

[Banditbandit]

Here's a thing. There are different types of coal. What new zealand has in relative abundance and easy to extract is high grade coking coal. Why is that important? That is the coal you need if you want to make high grade steel. One tonne of that stuff vs three to five tonnes of lesser quality coal in your steel mill. So there is a case that says "We should continue mining that coal in NZ because COMPARED TO THE ALTERNATIVE there is a nett benefit, to CO2 emissions, to NZ's bottom line, and even to the poor bastards whose job it is to dig it out of the ground.

Yeah .. I do get that .. but if the bottom's dropped out of the market then we may wel be selling a product that costs more to extract than the sale price brings in .. which is what appears to me wil happen ..

Thats what Pike River were after but they had other problems.

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Pike River's biggest problem was that the mined into the Brunner seam ... every mine in that seam has exploded at some time ...
And on the Denniston Plateau there's already a mine on fire .. Geez Wayne .. doesn't take a high IQ to ask about the risk of that venture ...

[Laava]

The bit I'm struggling with is ":Classic Hits Radio?"

All the songs that were thrashed to death when they came out & since then, all brought out & thrashed some more.


C'mon!

Just for you my friend!
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?feature...%3DdJoo7Tgjr8U

[mashman]

And that it is a small percentage of the land. 100 Hectares of tens of thousands. Then ignoring that the mining company is obliged to restore the land afterwards.

To hear the Greenies, you would think it is the end of civilisation as we know it.

The same thing was likely said about those who wanted to mine in the Amazon.

Where we rape for profit, that includes the ocean, civilisation doesn't exist... just a bunch of savages who think too much of themselves. Some of them believe in God too, which seems very hypocritical for some unknown reason.

[Road kill]

And that it is a small percentage of the land. 100 Hectares of tens of thousands. Then ignoring that the mining company is obliged to restore the land afterwards.

To hear the Greenies, you would think it is the end of civilisation as we know it.

From my understanding the Denniston Plateau as it is today is a result of the original mines so it can always be bought back to the condition it's currently in.

Read "The Denniston Rose",,,,a good NZ book based on the Plateau and incline.

[caseye]

Yeah .. I do get that .. but if the bottom's dropped out of the market then we may wel be selling a product that costs more to extract than the sale price brings in .. which is what appears to me wil happen ..




Pike River's biggest problem was that the mined into the Brunner seam ... every mine in that seam has exploded at some time ...
And on the Denniston Plateau there's already a mine on fire .. Geez Wayne .. doesn't take a high IQ to ask about the risk of that venture ...

The quality of the coal that Bathurst mining is after is amongst the best in the world.
The operation is now going to be what it always should have been, OPEN CAST, no hole no tunnels.
Extraction costs a fraction of what it does to mine it in the traditional sense.
Bathurst mining has to stump up with millions for DOC before they start, they then have to return the entire area they've stripped and extracted from to pristine condition including putting the snails back.
The coast gets jobs, employment and expenditure, Doc gets more money than Govt could ever give it, who exactly, loses here?

[HenryDorsetCase]

The same thing was likely said about those who wanted to mine in the Amazon.

Where we rape for profit, that includes the ocean, civilisation doesn't exist... just a bunch of savages who think too much of themselves. Some of them believe in God too, which seems very hypocritical for some unknown reason.

When humankind kills the oceans the planet dies. fact.

hopefully that will be after I am dead and gone (say another 50-80 years). after that I dont care. Those of you with children might have an opinion though

[PrincessBandit]

From my understanding the Denniston Plateau as it is today is a result of the original mines so it can always be bought back to the condition it's currently in.

Read "The Denniston Rose",,,,a good NZ book based on the Plateau and incline.

Ah, since this thread has wandered off topic anyway, I have just finished assessing my Year 10 class on a piece of music called "The Ghosts of Denniston" by Dorothy Buchanan. A lovely piece, and the kids all had to learn about the Denniston incline and history as part of the social context of the piece. Quite fascinating.

p.s. I still think Hekia Parata is a bitch

[F5 Dave]

Just for you my friend!
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?feature...%3DdJoo7Tgjr8U

erm didn't seem to work, but here's one back at ya,

[mashman]

When humankind kills the oceans the planet dies. fact.

hopefully that will be after I am dead and gone (say another 50-80 years). after that I dont care. Those of you with children might have an opinion though

Fuck that... I wanna be here coz the witch hunt is going to be epic.

[James Deuce]

Where manuka and rata struggle to grow beyong "stunted", the only animal that can scrape an existence is a snail and the most interesting thing for a tourist to go and see is the "incline" which carried coal down off the plateau from 1870-something until the 1960's.

This time. This is just the start and it was deliberately started on an unloved pile of tailings and scree, so the next one that removes hectares of virgin forest goes unremarked because the core, qualified individuals who were capable, motivated and informed have been removed from DoC and the lay protest movement discredited because they are complaining about a pile of tailings and scree being mined.

Did the bikoi not inform people enough of the process used by National to justify money making schemes for Government and corporate interests alike? Create a smokescreen, hammer an unloved minority and discredit their point of view, create a smokescreen and then just implement the plan while everyone stares intently at the tiny fire fuelling the smoke irrespective of the ultimate implications for the tax paying public and largely powerless public of NZ.

Back on topic, I don't like teachers. I really don't like teachers who use children as political footballs.

[Katman]

I don't really understand the problem.

Children are instinctively extremely adaptable.

It simply seems to be the wailing of the parents that's causing the kid's tears.

I changed schools more times than I can remember as a kid.

Didn't seem to do me any harm.

[Oakie]

Hekia Parata? Kind of nice to have a politician around who will make decisions without giving a shit about what it will do for her popularity.

I live in the north-east of Christchurch and looking at the decisions to close and merge, cold-bloodly, they're understandable. Close to home for me, my grandaughter enrolled in a school with a role of 106 two and a bit years ago. It didn't wait for 'the decision'. They closed with a role of just 36 at the end of last school year. My grandaughter was upset at the time but is loving her new school.

Get over it guys. As a local, I honestly feel it'll be for the best even though there will be some pain and loss out there.

[Katman]

If parents wanted to they could turn the merging of schools into some sort of adventure for their kids.

The parents are just pissed that they're going to have to make changes in their own lifestyles.

[James Deuce]

If parents wanted to they could turn the merging of schools into some sort of adventure for their kids.

The parents are just pissed that they're going to have to make changes in their own lifestyles.

Yep. Sad innit?

[Berries]

I'd tap it.